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darthbane77
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What's the context of this?

"And so he had stretched out — indeed, as if invisible, transubstantiated — to inform every being of his existence, and impact all of them: Muunoid or insectoid, secure or dispossessed, free or enslaved. A warrior waving a banner in triumph on a battlefield. A ghost infiltrating a dream."

How did Plagueis achieve this? Was he amped? What was happening?

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NewGuy01
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The context is that he tried, then failed.


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But wouldn't he have succeeded if it wasn't for the force itself?

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Were you only given that quote without any context?

Essentially Plagueis tried to reach out to every little thing to proclaim his supremacy but the Force fled from him.


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Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Were you only given that quote without any context?

Essentially Plagueis tried to reach out to every little thing to proclaim his supremacy but the Force fled from him.
Yeah, I was given the quote once a while back without any context. I got it again recently, tried finding any passages on it, and failed. So I wasn't sure how this feat was performed or if had even been successful.

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Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Were you only given that quote without any context?

Essentially Plagueis tried to reach out to every little thing to proclaim his supremacy but the Force fled from him.

wouldn't that indicate the force prevented him from performing the feat?

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But ultimately to no end. The Force grew silent, as if in flight from him, and many of the animals in his laboratory succumbed to horrifying diseases.

So yes, it stands to reason that the Force rebuked his efforts.


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And keep in mind, that if the Force itself stepped in, personally intervening, then he probably would've succeeded otherwise. It's a legit feat, and another one that confirms his superiority to Valkorion, given that the latter has no galaxy-wide feats without rituals, and the Force let him do as he pleased. Plagueis on the other hand can spread his influence across the entire galaxy, and affect quadrillions of sentients telepathically (not to mention the insects and others), and is so powerful that he is a legitimate threat to the Force itself, forcing it to intervene several times to try to stop him (here, and later in the form of Anakin Skywalker).


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Deronn Solo
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Originally posted by NewGuy01
The context is that he tried, then failed.


Pretty much, yeah.


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Originally posted by Azronger
And keep in mind, that if the Force itself stepped in, personally intervening, then he probably would've succeeded otherwise. It's a legit feat, and another one that confirms his superiority to Valkorion, given that the latter has no galaxy-wide feats without rituals, and the Force let him do as he pleased. Plagueis on the other hand can spread his influence across the entire galaxy, and affect quadrillions of sentients telepathically (not to mention the insects and others), and is so powerful that he is a legitimate threat to the Force itself, forcing it to intervene several times to try to stop him (here, and later in the form of Anakin Skywalker).

Your overreaching in regards to (already) subjective/POV statements is baffling.

Darth Plagueis clearly failed in this objective - the (Force grew silent) part is from his point-of-view regarding how he felt in the process. This feat was too much for him in scale and beyond his ability to control. Very simple.

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Yea, so we're ignoring when beni posted?

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