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Azronger
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This quote - legit or nah?

An imposing figure with ghostly pale features, prominent Sith tattoos, a gleaming red lightsaber, and devastating Dark Side power, Malak struck terror into the hearts of his former allies. He also wore a vocal mask that may have concealed a form of cybernetic life-support. Did it provide him with powers far greater than even Exar Kun or Freedon Nadd, or was cybernetic enhancement too simple an explanation?

―Wizards of the Coast: Darth Malak


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DarthAnt66
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Azronger, given the shit that you take as legit, yeah, it's legit.

Given the shit normal people take as legit, no.


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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Though Ant, tbf if you take the red-text quotes seriously, I don't see why you shouldn't take this one as such too.


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Azronger
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What are the reasons against its legitimacy?


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DarthAnt66
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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Though Ant, tbf if you take the red-text quotes seriously, I don't see why you shouldn't take this one as such too.

I take all quotes, feats, etc. as subjective. I don't regard the Foundry quote as definitive, but rather evidence.

Same applies here, but when this is the only evidence in a stream of contrary evidence, I'm inclined to dismiss it.

That being said, it's pretty lawl to say Kun could one-shot Malak if a source is establishing something like this.


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The only reason that I can think of that people would bring up off the top of my head is that WotC has said a lot of ridiculous shit. Though I doubt that's a sufficient answer for you.


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Azronger
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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I take all quotes, feats, etc. as subjective. I don't regard the Foundry quote as definitive, but rather evidence.

Same applies here, but when this is the only evidence in a stream of contrary evidence, I'm inclined to dismiss it.

That being said, it's pretty lawl to say Kun could one-shot Malak if a source is establishing something like this.


What contradictory evidence is there?

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The only reason that I can think of that people would bring up off the top of my head is that WotC has said a lot of ridiculous shit. Though I doubt that's a sufficient answer for you.


That's fallacious reasoning, yeah.


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What contradictory evidence is there?

By "contrary evidence," I didn't mean outright contradictory.


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Dooku is a second tier Jedi like Bastila. thumb up


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By "contrary evidence," I didn't mean outright contradictory.


Then what did you mean?

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Dooku is a second tier Jedi like Bastila. thumb up


That quote is solely applicable within the context of the Star Wars Miniatures Game. This one - from the looks of things - is applicable to the actual continuity.


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Given this source says Sidious > Caedus >/~ Revan > all other Sith and Yoda ~ Vader ~ Mace Windu > Dooku ~ Obi-Wan ~ Bastila... No, I don't take it as canon.


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Malak > Kun isn't explicitly contradicted, as far as I know.


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Given this source says Sidious > Caedus >/~ Revan > all other Sith and Yoda ~ Vader ~ Mace Windu > Dooku ~ Obi-Wan ~ Bastila... No, I don't take it as canon.


Fallacy of composition. Dismissed.

Also, see my response to TenebrousWay.

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Malak > Kun isn't explicitly contradicted, as far as I know.


Indeed.


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Azronger
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Also, for anyone wondering for the context of the quote, here's the full article:

http://web.archive.org/web/20090603...sw20031009malak

As you can see, it's lore-related, not gameplay-related.


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Why's it matter? It doesn't answer the question if Malak is better than Kun or not.

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Why's it matter? It doesn't answer the question if Malak is better than Kun or not.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Azronger
Also, for anyone wondering for the context of the quote, here's the full article:

http://web.archive.org/web/20090603...sw20031009malak

As you can see, it's lore-related, not gameplay-related.
Ah good, not canon then.


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What is suppose to be legit here? I mean the quote isn't saying anything, it's asking a question. It isn't confirming anything if it's asking something. So the question is legit I suppose.


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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Can people really not read? The quote is asking by what means did Malak grow far more powerful than Exar Kun.


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far greater eek!


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