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On that note, while most people complained about how Luke died, and that he died from making a projection of himself, I fail to see how it can be interpreted that way.
I saw it as similar to Obi-Wan's sacrifice on the Death Star. He accepts his death, as he knows he will be of better use to Rey/Ben through the force as a ghost. In that event, he almost "kills himself" or allows himself to be taken by the force.
If I'm correct, that means that although he could project himself and that could strain the **** out of him, it wouldn't actually kill Luke, if he wanted to live.
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I'd say it was a combination of the effort of the Force projection (which was stated to kill earlier in the movie and was confirmed by RJ as Luke's cause of death) and Luke's total openness of the Force (hence "peace and purpose").
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^ yeah if Luke really didn't want to die I doubt he would've, he gets up just fine and sits there looking at the sunset, when you die of exhaustion you don't do that lmao.
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Q: After the climactic battle on the salt planet Crait we learn Luke was projecting himself from his island the whole time. How does that scene rewrite the rules of the Force? Could a Force user projecting themselves physically influence the world around them, not just the minds of others?
RJ: That’s a question. When Luke shows up he’s projecting, it’s like a hardcore variation of what Kylo and Rey have been doing the whole time and that’s why it takes so much out of him. In the version that we play, no. We tried to play really, really fair. In terms of his footsteps – we removed all of his foley — there are no footstep sounds. They never touch. And if you look, the salt flakes that are falling are sparking off of Kylo’s saber and not off of Luke’s.
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And, of course, remember back to what Kylo said to Rey: You're not doing this, the effort would kill you.
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Hence why I think it's a combination of the two factors. I agree Luke would have stayed alive if he was 100% resolved to stay alive, but factor in his willingness to merge with the Force, and you get him becoming a spirit.
I also don't think using the terminology "kill" or "death" is "right" to describe the scene. It's more like Luke ascending to a higher plane of existence and power, really.
However, though, like I pointed out, Kylo does state what Luke is doing would kill Rey, likely foreshadowing Luke's "ascension."
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Last edited by Jaggarath on Dec 24th, 2017 at 12:25 AM
It was pretty racist of TLJ to have the Asian deny the black man's right to sacrifice himself for his friends just to make room for the white man to do it.
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Luke is far more powerful than Rey but I get that the authorial intent suggests that.
It's probably analogous to being in a situation where you would die if you did nothing, but live if you tried to. As opposed to being doomed or being in no danger at all.
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Unless Rey is another spawn of the force itself [like Anakin], I doubt she's ever going to be as powerful as a try hard Luke who reached his full potential. He probably still has a higher force potential.
Anyway, she's balanced with Kylo, who's a third in line Skywalker, so I doubt she's got the same potential as Luke.
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Why couldn't she "have the same potential?" Even Luke was scared of her raw power, and she'd never had any training at all at that point.
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Luke was scared of Ben's as well, and we can safely assume that even Ben doesn't have the SAME [though perhaps close] potential as Luke/Anakin.
I think what Luke said has been taken out of context, and seen literally. I think he means that Ben was a Skywalker. Ben's potential is still greater than even Sidious', and THAT IN ITSELF is scary enough to train, especially since Luke has to come up with training himself.
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