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Does Palps gigadrain?
According to the esteemed logic of some of our fellow members that shall herein go unnamed, Darth Nihilus' Force Drain has defence and thus he can beat individuals proven orders of magnitude more powerful than himself.
The question that follows now is given that Palpatine studied the Force in all its guises and gathered all the greatest lore of the dark side, does he know Big N's gigadrain, and can he one-shot the likes of Abeloth, the Son, and the Father before they can do anything?
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Revenge of the Sith
The Sith had changed. The Sith had grown, had adapted, had invested a thousand years' intensive study into every aspect of not only the Force but Jedi lore itself, in preparation for exactly this day.
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With the resources of the galaxy at his disposal, he gathered the greatest works of knowledge from over a million worlds. He studied the Force in all its guises thoughout the galaxy, whether it was the shamanism of Jarvashqiine or the tales of the Tyia.
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In these cantos and the hundreds of thousands that follow, it is apparent that the Emperor has plumbed depths of darkness unknown before. Whether he has done so out of a need to achieve knowledge, or whether he has been drawn thus far is unknown and perhaps unknowable. What is known is that the Emperor gathered all the greatest lore of the Dark Side and collected it.
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This question is specifically posed to those who champion Nihilus' no-limits hax: Does Uncle Sheev also gigadrain?
No, unless you are willing to be opened to the suggestion that a force user of that time, such as Revan/Traya managed to devise an ability to counter his technique, as they and several others during their time are the only ones that have encountered that sort of Drain.
It would be like expecting Sidious to create a technique that, counters abilities, not dealt/countered with in in all his texts.
Pretty sure he can't fold-space objects like GM Luke can.
Nihilus hunger/wound acts like a singularity in the force. Dooku literally described Sidious as a singularity. Sidious is a stable and more powerful version of Nihilus. Sidious Giga Drains.
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Unless he somehow had access to the Trayus academy or the holocron of someone who knew it, I doubt it.
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Not only that, but the magnitude that Nihilus could do it was specific to him, and him alone.
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In the day of KotOR II, sure. Traya specifically says that Nihilus may soon rival the Ancient Sith, meaning that there's some who were even better than him.
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Few people noticed the fact that Vitiate also developed symptoms of hunger from his experiments. After Nathema, he had to siphon energy of his subjects to satiate his hunger non-stop.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Jan 10th, 2018 at 06:20 AM
Midichlorian manipulation might be more haxxed than gigadrain anyway. But there must be a reason why Sidious doesn't bother to use that stuff on combatants like Yoda - those Force users must be so powerful that haxx doesn't work as effectively on them.
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It's not like Kreia was aware of Nihilus' 'current' power, anyways. What she describes is pre-eating planets Katarr and pre-Ravager.
And Palpatine was not a stable Force Wound. He was described as a black hole of the Force, not in the Force.
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Not to mention you're using Lucas canon sources which don't take in account the EU. And the DE quote is outdated. At that time, during DE, Sidious was the only dominating Sith Lord in the canon's.
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