"Other fallen Jedi, not content to serve their comrades, struck out on their own, spreading the darkness. One such was Freedon Nadd. Nadd roamed the uncharted systems until he found a world he could dominate through the dark side. The planet was called…Onderon."
―From the holocron of Vodo-Siosk Baas
"Freedon Nadd was a Dark Jedi. The stories say he was far worse than Revan and Malak ever were."
―Xarga
Now, I know there are 'sources' that state he is a Sith Lord. But it is more likely due to the fact that he was apprenticed to Naga Sadow and the Sith-ic bond he had with Lord Sadow. But then again, maybe I am wrong: and it is a retcon?
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
"These catacombs under the city extend for miles. Many people have wandered down here and been lost forever.[…]They say the tomb of the Dark Jedi, Freedon Nadd, is hidden down here, but that's just a myth."
―Princess Galia
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
They are angry because they have been forced to recognize that their hour has arrived; that the time has come to surrender power to Shimrra and the new order."
I don't know what to say. Nadd never struck me as a Sith Lord. Imo, Freedon Nadd is a Dark Jedi, Jedi that have fallen to the dark side and are independent but with relatively small ambitions (I.E. conquering Onderon and Dxun)
Every time Nadd is mentioned in KotOR, he's referred to as a Dark Jedi and rightfully so, because he doesn't have the goals of a Sith Lord (his goals were much smaller) and he had no connection to them (except Sadow's informal training). He's a Dark Jedi.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
What you want to say is that the Dark Jedi moniker is applied to two categories:
Rogue Jedi
Independent dark side practitioner
A Sith cannot be identified with a Dark Jedi because they already belong to an order.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Also, his tomb on Onderon was a focal point of dark side energy. His dark side well of power was used from generation to generation, and it didn't begin to heb.
The tomb also suffused Iziz, then the planet, and eventually the entirety of the Onderon system with the power of Sith magic using Nadd's dark side nexus.
Even after the sarcophagus(with its residual dark side energies) was moved on Dxun, Visas noted that Nadd must have been really strong in life.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Yes. If you are a dark side user that has no relation with an order is called a Dark Jedi. And by the Dark Empire, I strongly believe that Palpatine didn't deem himself a Sith anymore. He was still willing to make use of general dark side Force knowledge, but his Dark Empire reign had him as the top dog with lesser adepts and apprentices to use them in his matters.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Yes, but Lee clearly emphasises on the Jedi status. He says that a Dark Jedi is anyone who was expelled from the other and those darksiders that do not belong to the Jedi Order. Nothing contradicts what I have said.
Yes, the Son is a Dark Jedi because he doesn't belong to the Jedi Order and doesn't belong to an established order either. He is just a Darksider.
The ones in Revan's empire were named Dark Jedi because they were allied to his empire but followed their own agendas. They weren't 100% loyal to the empire.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
"We avoid [Dark Jedi] when we can. Dark Jedi definition still refers to ANY dark side user."
--Leland Chee
"A dark Jedi is ANYONE who practices the dark side of the Force WHETHER OR NOT they were a former Jedi."
--Leland Chee
Freedon Nadd is a Dark Jedi, as is any dark sider. You can be a Dark Jedi and a Dark Lord of the Sith at once. In fact, to be a Lord of the Sith, you must be a Dark Jedi. So the question posed in the OP is moot.
Last edited by SunRazer on Jan 26th, 2018 at 10:29 AM
Jan 25th, 2018 01:03 PM
