Why does it matter?
And we don't know Palpatine's count.
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Sheev's count was I believe 69420 as said in The Star Wars Essential Guide.
It could be assumed Vader went down more than a half as his balls had the capabilities to implant vast midichlorian counts, in addition to half his body. Probably a quarter of his max.
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The source I have has Sheev at 20,500 and Anakin at 27,700.
Vader loses both legs below the knee, an entire arm, and the forearm Dooku took off.
Going off of the weight distribution of the average human body:
lower leg = 4.65% (x2)
foot = 1.45% (x2)
upper arm = 2.7%
forearm = 1.60%(x2)
hand = 0.66%(x2)
Just accounting for the limb loss that's only 19.42% of body mass lost. At that point Vader was 80% of his former self, but not of Palpatine.
It would also make sense to account for the midichlorians lost after Vader's skin turned to char. The human skin accounts for appx 16% of a human's mass, but that number refers to entire body.
We have to use the rule of nines to assess how much skin of Vader's torso and stumps was lost.
68.5% of his remaining body's surface area was left to be burned, so:
16 x 0.685 ≈ 11% mass lost.
Add 11% to mass of limbs lost to get 69% total mass left of Vader.
Multiply Anakin's original midichlorian potential by this percentage to get
19113
We know Sheev's is 20500
(19113 / 20500 ) x 100 ≈ 0.93%
So Vader is closer to 90% of Palpatine by my crude calculations. If you account for the lung-tissue scarring/damage from inhaling the volcanic fumes, the extremely deep 4th degree burns from his level of exposure that would account for more tissue loss than the rule of nines, as well as any remaining tissue and organs removed/replaced during his operation, Vader probably does end up being 80% of Palpatine.
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Well Anakins count is over 20,000. Lucas said if Anakin fully realized his potential he'd be 2x stronger than Palpatine. Since MCs=potential, this means Palps MCs count is "over 10,000" Vader is 80% of Palps power, so he is "over 8,000" For MC counts in Legends, a count of 15000 was exceedingly high according to Tenebrous, one of 5000 was mild force sensitivity, 2500 or less no sensitivity or maybe extremely minor and 2000 none.
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I'm sure he found another estimate that included everything. If Kurk actually did that math on his own he would have been estimating Raven's weight and height ages ago and adding it to his fantasies.
"Oh Raven, my sweet 5'1 97 pound Raven. Sweep me off my feet and let me in your dimensional gap."
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I've become jaded to Raven. It took 3 fan fics of her last time for me to squeeze one out, and the charm of her personality has been lost due to MythLord's sharing of her other incarnations.
On to the next ***** I guess.
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So does legends go off of total midichlorian in the body; Meaning total mass while the canon only cares about the concentration of MC per cell, regardless of loss of limbs, as an indicator of power?
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My personal view is that Vader has a greater midichlorian count per cell, but the loss of limbs and inclusion of metal appendages prevents the force from optimally moving through his body making it harder for him to manifest his full potential
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I agree with JMango in the sense that I don't think his loss of limbs was a literal loss of midi-chlorians. That would mean someone shorter, or of a certain species, like yoda, would naturally have less midi-chlorians. So it defenitely seems like he still has 27,000 midi-chlorians per cell, or at least above 20,000. The only thing is that his loss of biomass makes him less human, and thus less of a "life form". It doesn't make any scientific sense, but neither does the entire conept of the Force.
And midi-chlorians count =/= force potential, by the way, though it is the biggest factor.
So yeah, Palpatine had a higher force potential, but Vader had more midi-chlorians per cell. By FAR.
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Agreed. It's sets a dangerous precedent if the loss of biomass = less midiclorians = less Force power. K'kruhk would only need a midi chlorian count of 1500 to be well in excess of Yoda's potential.
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