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Question ROTS novel implies Palpatine's cunning skills>his power in the Dark Side

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"Dooku could not argue. Not only had the Dark Lord introduced Dooku to realms of power beyond his most spectacular fantasies, but Sidious was also a political manipulator so subtle that his abilities might be considered to dwarf even the power of the dark side itself."
-Revenge of the Sith


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Palpatine quotes DEBUNKED (18+ - GONE WILD)


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given that Krayt was infinitely more successful than Palpatine... hmm


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Being a master manipulator > Being uber powerful in the force


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given that Krayt was infinitely more successful than Palpatine... hmm


Not as a political manipulator.


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I mean yeah, it's not like Sidious isn't the greatest politician in SW history or anything.

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Nice Palpatine wank


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Being a master manipulator > Being uber powerful in the force


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Originally posted by darthbane77
I mean yeah, it's not like Sidious isn't the greatest politician in SW history or anything.


You know exactly what I mean(referring to Palpatine's absolute accolades)


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Nice Palpatine wank


Don't ever insult me that way. I am not like Azronger. You know what I mean with this thread.


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You know exactly what I mean(referring to Palpatine's absolute accolades)
Eh, I appreciate the attempt, but this seems like reaching to me.

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What is reaching more exactly? The fact that an official source implies that a lot of Palpatine's wank comes more from his position as a cunning Sith Lord and not as someone who is undeniably strong in the Force?


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I believe it. And Palpatine most certainly WAS the greatest politial mind, or just the most emotionally intelligent in general in galactic history. He was the most powerful darksider to ever live, but that was just the kind of thing he fell back on when his incredible genius failed him. And it rarely did.

And as for Krayt, he was more successful because his job was easier.


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What is reaching more exactly? The fact that an official source implies that a lot of Palpatine's wank comes more from his position as a cunning Sith Lord and not as someone who is undeniably strong in the Force?
The quote doesn't prove anything though, all it does is say he was better in politics than he was with the Force. This in no way implies that Sidious is any less powerful than he's been believed to be, as he still has feats and scaling inarguably putting him above all Sith except except for arguably Vitiate and Nihilus.

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Good to know that Palp can take out his opponents via politics even if they’re proven to be more powerful than him.


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Originally posted by Zentrex
I believe it. And Palpatine most certainly WAS the greatest politial mind, or just the most emotionally intelligent in general in galactic history. He was the most powerful darksider to ever live, but that was just the kind of thing he fell back on when his incredible genius failed him. And it rarely did.

And as for Krayt, he was more successful because his job was easier.



What? Are you joking with me?

The text clearly implies that Palpatine's superiority over other Sith Lords comes (a lot more) from his political abilities rather than his power in the Force. Hence you have: '(...)might dwarf even the power of the dark side itself.'

I am not denying his power compared to Siths like Bane or Zannah. But it's evident that his absolute accolades don't only make reference to his power in the Force alone but rather a mix of Force knowledge, Force power, and political power.


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The quote doesn't prove anything though, all it does is say he was better in politics than he was with the Force. This in no way implies that Sidious is any less powerful than he's been believed to be, as he still has feats and scaling inarguably putting him above all Sith except except for arguably Vitiate and Nihilus.


It says: 'dwarf'. You know the definition of 'dwarf'. The text plainly implies that a lot of his hype is also (mostly) resultant of his political power in comparision to other Sith Lords.

His (major) feats are kind of debateable, to be honest.


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Good to know that Palp can take out his opponents via politics even if they’re proven to be more powerful than him.


The Palpatine wank is ironic.


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Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
It says: 'dwarf'. You know the definition of 'dwarf'. The text plainly implies that a lot of his hype is also (mostly) resultant of his political power in comparision to other Sith Lords.

His (major) feats are kind of debateable, to be honest.
The statement that his political ability dwarfs his ability in the Force doesn't have any real effect on Sidious' power in the Force. It literally only means he's even better at manipulation than he is with the Force, that's all it means, there's no other meaning,

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I am not saying this statement makes him less strong-er in the Force for god's sake. I am saying that this fragment implies that a lot of his hype as Sith MVP comes from his political power.


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