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Jedi Master Palpatine?

What if the jedi found a young Sheev and trained him? How would this work out?

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I mean, he was dark even as a baby. He'd turn eventually, or he'd become Grandmaster when Yoda eventually died of old age then subtly lead the Jedi order to the Dark Side.


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Yeah, they clearly intended on making Palpatine as completely irredeemable, the ultimate embodiment of the Dark Side in the his characterization, spanning whatever material he has been in.

Clearly they succeeded, because to anyone well versed in him, the notion of a Jedi Sidious is ridicule worthy.

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In the Plagueis novel, Palpatine threw out the idea of joining the jedi before deciding to join Hego.


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Yeah, they clearly intended on making Palpatine as completely irredeemable, the ultimate embodiment of the Dark Side in the his characterization, spanning whatever material he has been in.

Clearly they succeeded, because to anyone well versed in him, the notion of a Jedi Sidious is ridicule worthy.
Indeed.

Palpatine was essentially the antithesis to Yoda... Where Yoda was completely incorruptible, Palpatine was completely irredeemable. He would have eventually turned to the dark side, regardless of how he was raised.


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"I am the High Council!"
-honorable Grand Jedi Master Sheev Palpatine


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Originally posted by Galan007
Indeed.

Palpatine was essentially the antithesis to Yoda... Where Yoda was completely incorruptible, Palpatine was completely irredeemable. He would have eventually turned to the dark side, regardless of how he was raised.


I thought Jar Jar was Yoda's antithesis.


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I thought Jar Jar was Yoda's antithesis.


no no no; Jar jar is the key to all this...

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Jar Jar is the antithesis of Star Wars itself... The Shatterpoint of the entire damn franchise.


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no no no; Jar jar is the key to all this...


"Jar Jar is the Sith Lord!"

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Originally posted by Galan007
Jar Jar is the antithesis of Star Wars itself... The Shatterpoint of the entire damn franchise.


What about the droid attack on the Wookiees?


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Originally posted by Kurk
In the Plagueis novel, Palpatine threw out the idea of joining the jedi before deciding to join Hego.


So he could become the High Council, obviously.


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come on guys, Jar Jar isn't that bad. I'm not defending the atrocities, but I'm just saying that there are worse things out there. Even within the star wars lore.


Also, the Jedi would never accept Palpatine. They'd be confused as to what to do with pure evil, but they'd figure something out which prohibits him from having any influence anywhere in the galaxy.


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"Yoi ever hear the fairytale of Hego Damask the Wise? I thought about it. It's not a story the Sith would tell you. It's a Jedi legend. Hego Damask the Wise was a Grand Master of the Jedi Order, so powerful and so wise, he could the Force to influence people to be kind to each other. He had such a knowledge of the Light Side he could even keep other people's emotions at bay to keep innocent ones from dying. Light Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities many consider to be natural. He became so responsible, the only thing he was afraid of was letting people down, which eventually, of course, he did. Fortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice helped him fix his mistakes. Ironic, he could forgive others for their flaws, but not himself."
-Sheev Palpatine telling the fairytale of Hego Damask the Wise to a young Sith Anakin


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Imagine a Sith order in place of the Jedi order, and having alone thousand year lineage of Jedi. slowly rising in power, to over throw the Sith order.

**** thinking about it now. Sidious is legendary as ****.

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Originally posted by Galan007
Indeed.

Palpatine was essentially the antithesis to Yoda... Where Yoda was completely incorruptible, Palpatine was completely irredeemable. He would have eventually turned to the dark side, regardless of how he was raised.

Depends on age. As we see him in the novel, yeah, but go back to the start of his forumlative years and change things, you get a different character.

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Originally posted by Galan007
TFA is the antithesis of Star Wars itself... The Shatterpoint of the entire damn franchise.

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Imagine a Sith order in place of the Jedi order, and having alone thousand year lineage of Jedi. slowly rising in power, to over throw the Sith order.

**** thinking about it now. Sidious is legendary as ****.

Spoilers: Ligth Vader would still kill him.


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So even at birth Palpatine has some neurological imbalance causing him to be a guaranteed psychopath.

He has the qualities of one:

- takes part in high-risk activities (pod racing)
- no remorse (brutally murders family without regret)
- has unrealistic expectations (wanted to be supreme ruler at age 19)
- unwilling to accept responsibility for actions (constantly blamed his father for everything that happened to him)


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So basically he'd be Anakin? I don't like this story, then.


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