Embarrassing? What part of that implies the Emperor used a ritual to consume Ziost? The opposite seems to be implied based on what Charles quoted. In fact, what Charles quoted is what I’ve been saying all along: that the Emperor possessed people, killed people to grow in strength in order to possess and kill more people, until he reached a level where he could consume the planet.
Thanks, Sel.
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The person Charles quoted differentiated Ziost from the galaxy ritual, regardless of what said person was responding to. The only part relevant to Ziost specifically was:
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It was an all encompassing statement, and one Boyd validated. If he always needs to use a ritual for it, evidently he needed one on Ziost.
Edit: It’s also worth paying attention to the conversation train that the post you quote was a part of. That started saying Vitiate needed a ritual to consume the dead, but the death happened another way. The above poster was showing that this still fits the mold of Ziost
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The statement was not all-encompassing, it literally couldn’t have been. The means by which he described the galaxy ritual, (lots of deaths in a short time + a certain amount of deaths in a long time) followed by a separate paragraph explaining how Ziost happened (a loop in which he possesses people, kills people, consumes their spirits, thus allowing him to possess and kill more people until he can consume the planet, etc) are markedly different.
Hell, as far as the actual source material is concerned, it wouldn’t make sense, because we know the Emperor was freely consuming spirits long before he devastated Ziost. In context, the latter two posts Boyd quoted referring to how Vitiate may have needed to use a ritual to consume the spirits of the dead is in order to rationalize Zildrog, (I.e. Pre-Nathema Vitiate).
Furthermore, there seems to be a bifurcation between ending all life on Ziost and consuming all life on Ziost, which I also suspected. Essentially, there’s two parts to the feat:
1. Vitiate sends out a cataclysmic death wave that kills all life on the entire planet.
2. Vitiate devours/consumes the life he killed, like he was doing throughout the whole Revanite War and Ziost.
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I believe you're referring to a different post to me, the part I'm mentioning comes from the third post Boyd quotes as accurate. In reality though, the first post does actually say the same thing when you accurately place it into context. Read it as Boyd did:
The poster isn't differentiating Ziost because it's not a ritual, he's explaining how the cycle of death applied to Ziost; aka why it didn't need a machine.
As for the 'death wave', I wouldn't necessarily argue against or for that, honestly there's nowhere near enough information to bother with either side. It's equally likely that the 'death wave' is a part of the ritual, one that requires a prerequisite amount of death to occur, or power to be accumulated.
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The damn material, quotes Valkorian is getting stronger and stronger, from their deaths, unless you want to call valkorion getting stronger, from every death a ritual.
Their is nothing that hints that it was one.
Since when does the authorial opinion matter? I thought it does not.
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What's the deal here? Are those guys working for Star Wars?
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