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Sheev
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Theoretical Midichlorian counts?

With Vader as the gauge at over 20000, where would you put the following individuals' midichlorian counts?

-Plagueis
-Sidious
-Yoda
-Tenebrous
-Vitiate
-Mace
-Kenobi
-Snoke
-Kylo
-Rey


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Plagueis: 12 173
Sidious: 14 017
Yoda: 13 029
Tenebrous: 11 793
Vitiate: 13 000
Mace: 11 009
Obi-Wan: 9 531
Snoke: 7 002
Kylo: 15 039
Rey: 12 011


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Sheev
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Surprised how low some of yours are. figured Sidious, Yoda, and Plagueis tier would at least be in th 17-18k range.


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In The Tenebrous Way, Darth Tenebrous was practically fangirling at the thought of creating a being with a midi-chlorian count of 15,000... Suggesting that 15k already exceeded most Jedi/Sith on record(including that of he and Plagueis.)


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Going strictly by movie canon, Anakins force potential is over 20K and 2x that of the Emperor's. Since MC counts=potential, this would mean Palps is "Over 10,000." Yoda is roughly his equal, and Suited Vader is 80% of the Emperor's power "over 8,000"


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Midi-chlorians are not proof of your Force strength. They just help you to increase your chances of having an 'Oneness' connection.


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While not storygroup approved there is a book in existence, published officially by Lucasfilm with a bunch of wack MC in it

https://imgur.com/a/wYdIl

I still can't believe this crap slipped through.

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Bullsith.


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Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Midi-chlorians are not proof of your Force strength. They just help you to increase your chances of having an 'Oneness' connection.
There is a direct correlation between midi-chlorian counts and force potential.


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I think they highest number of midi one has the easiest is for him to become very powerful and learn or master force powers. However I think that even someone with a lower power level could become very powerful, they just need muuuch more training and time to grow. Look at Sharad Hett, he was good during the clone wars, but he was nowhere as powerful as he would later become. Give him More decades to grow, and more knowledge, and he became quite a powerful Sith


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It's pretty much the same as genetics. Just because you don't have good genetics doesn't mean someone like Johnny Depp couldn't get stronger than The Mountain before he started training. But once The Mountain started working out and doing heavy roids and hgh, he got higher than Johnny Depp could ever dream of.

If Anakin never trained force stuff, he would have been weaker than some loser like Freedon Nadd. But his ceiling for power is simply higher because his "genetic" potential is off the chain. He has the potential to be the most powerful force user ever if he keeps training. It doesn't mean he is, it means he can become it from training, and likely just normal shit.

Yoda doesn't make sense though since his count is so high and he's had centuries to get more powerful. They kind of glossed over that.


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Originally posted by Total Warrior
I think they highest number of midi one has the easiest is for him to become very powerful and learn or master force powers. However I think that even someone with a lower power level could become very powerful, they just need muuuch more training and time to grow. Look at Sharad Hett, he was good during the clone wars, but he was nowhere as powerful as he would later become. Give him More decades to grow, and more knowledge, and he became quite a powerful Sith
Oh I agree.

I'm just saying that if you have two force-users that are identical in every way, except that one has a midi-count of 5,000 and the other has a midi-count of 15,000, and then give them an equal amount of force-training, the one with the higher count is going to become [far] more powerful overall. As mentioned, there is a direct correlation between high midi-counts and force power/potential.

...But that's not to say a being with a lower midi-count cannot become more powerful than someone with a higher count via extensive training and whatnot.


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Originally posted by Greysentinel365
While not storygroup approved there is a book in existence, published officially by Lucasfilm with a bunch of wack MC in it

https://imgur.com/a/wYdIl

I still can't believe this crap slipped through.


Those lists were from Supershadow who was infamous for making up star wars stuff.


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Originally posted by Galan007
There is a direct correlation between midi-chlorian counts and force potential.


Then, Vitiate must have a really huge midi-chlorian count, far greater than Anakin's. Happy Dance laughing


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Originally posted by One Big Mob
If Anakin never trained force stuff, he would have been weaker than some loser like Freedon Nadd.


Are you trying to say that Freedon Nadd is a weakling? Even, though his Force ghost feats suggest otherwise(a weak Nadd, anyways)


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Originally posted by The Merchant
Those lists were from Supershadow who was infamous for making up star wars stuff.


His stories and plots would have been better then the shit we were given by Disney


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Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader = 27,700
Darth Sidious/Palpatine (with Kyber Crystal) = 20,500
Yoda = 17,700
Luke Skywalker = 14,500
Leia Organa Solo = 14,500
Aenon Jurtis (Most powerful Jedi Master prior to Yoda) = 14,200
Shintor Beerus (Ancient Jedi Master) = 13,900
Ce Ce Denowai (The Most Powerful Female Jedi) = 13,700
Ben (Jhon) Skywalker = 13,700
Anakin Solo (Son of Leia and Han Solo) = 13,700
Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus = 13,500
Obi-Wan Kenobi = 13,400
Kaja Sinis (The First Jedi) = 13,250
Kyle Katarn = 12,200
Mace Windu = 12,000
Darth Maul = 12,000
General Grievous (New Episode 3 Villain) = 11,900
Kit Fisto = 11,800
Exar Kun (Dark Lord of the Sith during the Sith War) = 11,700
Shindor = 11,500 (Dark Jedi from Episode 7)
Yaddle = 11,300
Xanatos' (Qui-Gon Jinn's former apprentice) = 11,300
Darth Seer (Founder of the modern Sith Order) = 11,200
Plo Koon = 11,100
Mara Jade = 11,000
Darth Malak (Knights of the Old Republic video game) = 10,800
Jedi Master Corran Horn (from the New Jedi Order series of Star Wars novels) = 10,700
Ki Adi Mundu = 10,600
Darth Bane = 10,500
Nebar Foxis (Jedi Knight played by SuperShadow in Episode 3) = 10,400
Joruus C'baoth = 10,350
Darth Imperius (Darth Sidious' Master) = 10,300
Shaak Ti = 10,300
Tahari Vehlia (New Jedi Order novels) = 10,300
Echuu-Shen Jon = 10,200
Darth Revan = 10,200 (Knights of the Old Republic video game)
Jedi Master Kam Solusar (New Jedi Order novels) = 10,100
Aalya Secura = 10,000
Qui-Gon Jinn = 10,000
Average Jedi = 10,000
Assajj Ventress (Sith Warrior During Clone Wars) = 9,600
Naga Sadow (Dark Lord of the Sith that fled to Yavin 4)= 9,400
Jedi Master Adeus Hust = 9,300
Jacen Solo (Son of Leia and Han Solo) = 9,000
Jaina Solo (Daughter of Leia and Han Solo) = 9,000
Jedi Master Cihgal (New Jedi Order novels) = 9,000
Darth Rage (Sidious' apprentice after Darth Maul) = 9,000
Jedi Master Tionne Solusar (New Jedi Order novels) = 8,500
Dezar Looger (Dagobah Dark Jedi) = 8,400
Xio Jade = 7,400
Chewbacca = 7,200
Tylus Liv = 7,100
Aurra Sing = 7,000
Need To be Considered for Training as a Jedi = 7,000
Padme Amidala = 4,700
Danni Quee (New Jedi Order Jedi Scientist)= 4,500
Beru Lars = 3,700
Shmi = 3,300
Lando Calsarrian = 3,300
Boba Fett= 1,500
Han Solo = 1,500
Jango Fett = 1,500
Owen Lars = 1,500

All legit. Straight from Super Shadow himself. thumb up

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Originally posted by Greysentinel365
While not storygroup approved there is a book in existence, published officially by Lucasfilm with a bunch of wack MC in it

https://imgur.com/a/wYdIl

I still can't believe this crap slipped through.

Yeah, some dumbass actually published information from a fan site thinking it was official.


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Yeah, some dumbass actually published information from a fan site thinking it was official.


I'm not surprised by that. laughing

What's the name of the book?


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Yeah, some dumbass actually published information from a fan site thinking it was official.


*facepalm*


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