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Total Warrior
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which one of these evil characters had the most impact on the SW universe?

1) Ajunta Pall: because he led the dark Jedi to the Sith, creating the Sith order
2) Valkorion/Vitiate: reformed the Sith Empire
3) Darth Bane: invented the rule of 2
4) Darth Sidious: created the Sith Empire and almost destroyed the Jedi Order
5) Anakin Skywalker: destroyed the Jedi Order and killed Sidious


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About Sidious, I meant galactic* empire. I can’t edit it


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Neither of Vitiate's empires impacted anything outside of their own era. Ajunta could be called the first Sith Lord, but he was one of many that arrived on Korriban, and little would have changed were he removed from the situation. Sidious achieved the most in his time, but ultimately he owes his success to the Rule of Two, which was founded by Bane. So as far as the Sith go, he's definitely the winner.

As for Anakin, I suppose you could credit him with the eradication of that "impact" Bane made, as well as all of the accomplishments of his progeny, who were still active players a century later. So probably him, which shouldn't surprise anyone given that he's the main character of the franchise.


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Ajunta...?


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Bane because he saved the sigh n his order molded the most powerful sith culminating 8n Sidious

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Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Ajunta...?
one of the dark Jedi who fled to Korriban( I think?) where they found the Sith species


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Neither of Vitiate's empires impacted anything outside of their own era. Ajunta could be called the first Sith Lord, but he was one of many that arrived on Korriban, and little would have changed were he removed from the situation. Sidious achieved the most in his time, but ultimately he owes his success to the Rule of Two, which was founded by Bane. So as far as the Sith go, he's definitely the winner.

As for Anakin, I suppose you could credit him with the eradication of that "impact" Bane made, as well as all of the accomplishments of his progeny, who were still active players a century later. So probably him, which shouldn't surprise anyone given that he's the main character of the franchise.
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Bane because he saved the sigh n his order molded the most powerful sith culminating 8n Sidious


Both Plagueis and Sidious rejected Bane's Rule of Two.


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Originally posted by Total Warrior
one of the dark Jedi who fled to Korriban( I think?) where they found the Sith species


Without Ajunta Pall there wouldn't be any Sith Order today. He is one of father founders of the Sith Order. And he was the Dark Jedi Exiles' leader.


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the whole Star Wars saga revolves around Anakin and sidious was the guy who orchestrated everything to do with said saga so either one of the guys

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Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Without Ajunta Pall there wouldn't be any Sith Order today. He is one of father founders of the Sith Order. And he was the Dark Jedi Exiles' leader.


He was one of them, yes. He was far from being the only one though, so like I said, the Sith order would likely still exist even if he wasn't there.


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He was one of them, yes. He was far from being the only one though, so like I said, the Sith order would likely still exist even if he wasn't there.


Not the Sith Lords Order, the reverse faction of Jedi.
The Sith Kingdom would have been still there. But I am talking about Ajunta's Sith Order.


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the whole Star Wars saga revolves around Anakin and sidious was the guy who orchestrated everything to do with said saga so either one of the guys


Only in Lucas' canon.


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Re: which one of these evil characters had the most impact on the SW universe?

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Originally posted by Total Warrior
1) Ajunta Pall: because he led the dark Jedi to the Sith, creating the Sith order
2) Valkorion/Vitiate: reformed the Sith Empire
3) Darth Bane: invented the rule of 2
4) Darth Sidious: created the Sith Empire and almost destroyed the Jedi Order
5) Anakin Skywalker: destroyed the Jedi Order and killed Sidious
I mean, Sidious DID destroy the Jedi Order, he just didn't destroy the Jedi.

Probably Palpatine, in all honesty.


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Not the Sith Lords Order, the reverse faction of Jedi.
The Sith Kingdom would have been still there. But I am talking about Ajunta's Sith Order.


You're confused. Ajunta Pall was one of several dark Jedi that were exiled to Korriban at the end of the Hundred Year Darkness. Even if he were not there, the dark Jedi would have still discovered the Sith species, come to rule them as Lords, and died out due to infighting. Ajunta didn't contribute anything special to the process, he was just the strongest of them, and was thus deemed the leader for a time.

I'd actually say his shadow hands Sorzus Syn and Karness Muur both had much more of a long-term impact than he did.


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Bane or Sidious

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Snoke.


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Snoke.

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Sidious and/or Anakin/Vader.


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>i can't read
Quit playing by the rules you lemming. Snoke is the end all be all in Star Wars.


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