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Where is Qui-Gon Jinn?

I've always wondered where Qui-Gon really is relative to other duelists. I think he suffers a bit from "Maul killed him lol"-ism and the result is that he gets underrated. Now, I'm not saying Jinn could go up against Yoda or anything, I just want to start a discussion about where he fits. In terms of the "tier" system, I would think he's a very high 7 bordering 8, or a very low 8 - somewhat similar to how Windu goes from 8 to 9 when he uses Vaapad against Sidious. What really stops Qui Gon from being solid tier 8 is his stamina in prolonged lightsaber combat, at least against a solid 8 Juyo practicioner like Maul. However the sources give off the impression that Jinn and Maul were about even with each other until Jinn started tiring.

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He’s a small bit below fellow masters like Tiin and Kolar, imo.


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He's a seven. Nearing the top but still below Fisto, Mundi and Plo.


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He's a seven. Nearing the top but still below Fisto, Mundi and Plo.

Mundi?


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Mundi?


Indeed.

Mundi, exhausted and demorilsaed gave Legends Grevious the same fight as a Fresh Qui Gon did to Maul in TPM.

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Jinn doesn't have abnormally low stamina, he just can't keep up with Maul's pace. He's a solid 7, probably no worse than Plo Koon.

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He’s a small bit below fellow masters like Tiin and Kolar, imo.


Lmfao

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Indeed.

Mundi, exhausted and demorilsaed gave Legends previous the same fight as a Fresh Qui Gon did to Maul in TPM.

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Lmfao

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The feat on Hypori vs the cyborg is a little bit better considering circumstances.


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Isn't the level between two tiers a stomp? Like shouldn't an 8 stomp a 7? Gin did considerably well, well enough that I'm not sure about giving Maul such a decisive advantage.

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The feat on Hypori vs the cyborg is a little bit better considering circumstances.

Not convinced. Mundi had more help and got stomped worse.


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In their first fight Maul had him dead to rights in 30 seconds, in the second Maul didn't waver from a position of superiority as he lured Jinn to a better tactical location and gutted him without dropping a bead of sweat.

So, about what he would do to Plo Koon.

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Tf have Tiin and Kolar done to show parity to Jinn lol?

For the record I have Fisto solidly above Jinn, so perhaps your "omg B team hater, abc lover pqr hater" crap could use some rest.

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Tf have Tiin and Kolar done to show parity to Jinn lol?

For the record I have Fisto solidly above Jinn, so perhaps your "omg B team hater, abc lover pqr hater" crap could use some rest.

Tell DMB to cut down on the drug supply, he’s frying your brain.


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The gaps between levels get higher as the tiers progress apparently.

So Jinn is closer to Maul than Maul is to Sidious.

Still.. Jinn is not really a match for Maul. based on their two fights. On Tatooine Jinn was exhausted after a bout lasting 40 seconds. He only survived long enough on Naboo because Maul was steering the Jedi as far away from the other battles as possible. This is explained in the novel.


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There is no need to carry the salt from an year old debate where you were made to look like a neanderthal till today

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IIRC, in their first fight, Maul is taken off guard by how Jinn anticipated his attacks and balanced himself perfectly. I think that's pretty impressive for an Ataru specialist going up against a Juyo specialist. If Jinn is a 7, he's like, a very high 7.

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There is no need to carry the salt from an year old debate where you were made to look like a neanderthal till today

I honestly can’t even remember ever conversing with you, that’s how little I care. You’ve just always been a diet ILS without his cool side.


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CaV offer still stands LotL. As long as you say no you really can’t diss me lmao.


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