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Galan007
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The Star Wars Book (2020)

So I was skimming through this guidebook and noticed a few tidbits that were worth mentioning.

I'll probably post more later, but here is some of the info that stood out...


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Galan007
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First off, the confirmed vergeance/nexus points in canon:
https://ibb.co/YRJR5tY
https://ibb.co/xMZpjQT

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Additional information on TWBW:
https://ibb.co/zFnkjdQ
https://ibb.co/gzSWPgw

Nothing late-breaking. Just mentions that Palpatine wasn't able to access the dimension by way of the Living Force, and further mentions that Ezra may have been able to access it due to his Lothal heritage and strong connection to the Living Force.

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Some information on "rarer" Force abilities:
https://ibb.co/rthV67m

Interestingly enough, it is stated that Rey DID possess pshcyometry. It also implies that Force-healing(like Rey and Ben displayed) can only be achieved via a Dyad connection. So this may very well be an ability that Rey lost after Ben's death.

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Some info on the ancient Sith and ancient Jedi/Sith wars:
https://ibb.co/1Xzj4dY
https://ibb.co/ww8nkwv
https://ibb.co/KDb5c8d

https://ibb.co/F5363Bw

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This excerpt states that Mace's lightsaber prowess was "second only" to Yoda's:
https://ibb.co/WfXLQqb


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Palpatine:
https://ibb.co/qCbbzkp
https://ibb.co/WfNcVyL

https://ibb.co/Y2d1vPK

https://ibb.co/gzSWPgw

Interesting part here is that we get clarification that Rey WAS bolstering her power with the Jedi spirits of Beyond. However, nothing in this book mentions that Palpatine's power was augmented in a similar manner -- by all accounts, the power he displayed in RoS was his... And his alone.

It also states that Rey destroyed Palpatine "body and soul." So it's unlikely that he will ever return again.

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Snoke:
https://ibb.co/8bS2mDj

Again, nothing we hadn't already pieced together. Snoke is classified as a "genetic strandcast" with free will, who was created(and manipulated) by Palpatine.

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This excerpt clarifies why Leia didn't dissipate into the Force until after Ben died:
https://ibb.co/CtLFWT9

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Information on the Mandalorians(including Din Djarin and The Child):
https://ibb.co/7N9txfQ
https://ibb.co/6y00mQy
https://ibb.co/JtZn8NC
https://ibb.co/Yd8tx97
https://ibb.co/SmqsWhx
https://ibb.co/7z2dCrM
https://ibb.co/jZyfDWj


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Zenwolf
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SW Canon: Yeah! Healing and Absorbing Force abilities are rare! Teleporting is a super special bond thing!

SW Legends: ..../Laughs in standard Jedi training. /Laughs in Aing-Ti monks.

Still though, interesting.


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Definitely one aspect of the new Canon that's superior to the old. Not as much powercreep, though I'm sure that'll change on a decade or two.


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Galan007
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Originally posted by Zenwolf
SW Canon: Yeah! Healing and Absorbing Force abilities are rare! Teleporting is a super special bond thing!

SW Legends: ..../Laughs in standard Jedi training. /Laughs in Aing-Ti monks.

Still though, interesting.
I know you've brought this up before, but the book also mentions that there are ~3.2m habitable worlds in the known galaxy.
https://ibb.co/YTbsWZX
So that's definitely a thing as well.

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Definitely one aspect of the new Canon that's superior to the old. Not as much powercreep, though I'm sure that'll change on a decade or two.
Except for Palpatine.

Took Rey, with the power of all the Jedi past, to match/defeat him. And as mentioned, the implication in this book is that he wasn't accessing any power but his own.


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Was Palpatine with all the sith powers that he had dominated or he only used his own powers?


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Galan007
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Like I said above: from what I'm seeing, nothing in this particular book implies that Palpatine was using any power but his own.

Flip side, the book explicitly confirms that Rey was bolstering her power via the spirits of Jedi past when she beat him.


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Anything new about Luke?


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Doesn't the TROS book literally say he called on the power of all the Sith before him.

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Anything about Vos?


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Originally posted by Galan007
I know you've brought this up before, but the book also mentions that there are ~3.2m habitable worlds in the known galaxy.
https://ibb.co/YTbsWZX
So that's definitely a thing as well.


Huh the galaxy REALLY shrunk then.


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Originally posted by Eli Vanto
Anything new about Luke?
Nothing new.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Scizard
Doesn't the TROS book literally say he called on the power of all the Sith before him.
Yes.

But this particular book mentions nothing of the sort.

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Originally posted by Total Warrior
Anything about Vos?
Nope.

There's a lot more info about Dryden Vos than Quinlan Vos, lol.


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I mean the book doesn’t have to mention everything, so Palps could still be. Also since the galaxy is much smaller this probably means the factions as well are much smaller.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007
First off, the confirmed vergeance/nexus points in canon:
https://ibb.co/YRJR5tY
https://ibb.co/xMZpjQT

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Guess this means Maul and Vader could have been amped on malachor like others have been saying for years.


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Guess this means Maul and Vader could have been amped on malachor like others have been saying for years.


They would have to be drawing on it first though no? I don’t see why Vader would, Maul maybe and the Inquistors likely. Though if all of them were amped it sure as hell didn’t seem like it, well Inquistors aside.


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The thing with Palps calling on the power of the past sith might be just a metaphor. As we know the sith can't keep their identity after death unless they have some sort of anchor like Momin and his mask, but he is just the exception rather than the norm. The sith just become one with the cosmic force, losing their identity.
I would say that a more lore friendly interpretation is that it's just Sheev's power.

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We don't know if a nexus works in canon like in legends. (Amping force user of a certain aligment)
I also doubt Filoni took the nexus into acount when he wrote the story.

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Galan007
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Originally posted by Sheev
Guess this means Maul and Vader could have been amped on malachor like others have been saying for years.
The excerpt just says that Force users "may have" stronger "interactions" with the Force at those locations.

But like Zen said: the power of said vergence has to be consciously drawn upon/accessed first. The Force user in question doesn't receive an instantaneous, passive amp just by stepping foot onto a vergence.

The most obvious example is Anakin on Mortis: when consciously tapping into its power, he was able to trounce the Son and the Daughter simultaneously... But he never displayed power remotely comparable to that later in the same arc(while on the same vergence), because he never attempted to consciously amp himself in a similar way.

*Same thing with Vader on Mustafar, for that matter.

So unless it is explicitly stated, I personally wouldn't assume that a Force user is automatically amped, simply because they are on a vergence/nexus.


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Originally posted by Darthadi
The thing with Palps calling on the power of the past sith might be just a metaphor. As we know the sith can't keep their identity after death unless they have some sort of anchor like Momin and his mask, but he is just the exception rather than the norm. The sith just become one with the cosmic force, losing their identity.
I would say that a more lore friendly interpretation is that it's just Sheev's power.
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Darthadi
The thing with Palps calling on the power of the past sith might be just a metaphor. As we know the sith can't keep their identity after death unless they have some sort of anchor like Momin and his mask, but he is just the exception rather than the norm. The sith just become one with the cosmic force, losing their identity.
I would say that a more lore friendly interpretation is that it's just Sheev's power.
Agreed. Because based on the passages galan posted, after he created the Empire it seems like Sidious basically devoted his entire life to unlocking ancient secrets of the Sith and studying sith arcana. His enormous growth makes sense if he was dedicating every waking moment to becoming more powerful.

We saw how powerful Rey (who was Sidiou's direct offspring and had his same potential) became just by studying some random texts with Leia for 1 year. Sidious himself had basically been doing the same thing on a much greater level for several decades.


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