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Carter: a real threat?

As you people will probably know, in Tomorrow Never Dies (yes, the one with Terri Hatcher, aka Lois Lane wink), the mainvillain was mister Carter.

That Carter owned Carter Media Network and could reach millions of people and influence them...


Do you think this threat is real? Do you think it's possible in the "real world", or was it all farfetched?
Have far will someone go to make the news to get the scoops?

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Wasn't he called Carver ?

I don't think media have such power. I can't speak for every country (for I've seen the movie "Wag the dog"), but here in France, even if they can clearly manipulate the general audience, they cannot modify the reality.


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darn, I do that everytime messed yeah, it's carver, carter is someone else messed

what if they can influence the audience in such a way they can create a riot? than they can alter reality in some way

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what if they can influence the audience in such a way they can create a riot? than they can alter reality in some way
this should be a walk in the park for them... shifty


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for the audience to find it out?
or are you refering to mission impossible? stick out tongue

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I just mean that manipulating the way people perceive reality is very easy !

but yes I was refering to MiII


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so, if you control a lot of media, you can manipulate so much that you can just say what you want and gain more power, no?

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Erm, not really... You have to be subtle.
I could be very provocative by taking the example of the big American networks ...
I don't think media can really create their own reality. Just modify the real one...But that's more and more difficult because of the globalisation of information


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are you sure? if you own a lot of networks with tv, radio, newspapers etc. I think you can go very far in making people believe what YOU want, to a certain extent you can also influence people who surf the web frequently

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No, because of the more and more numerous sources (CNN/Al Jazirah, French Media/American Media/BBC) +++ Internet... it becomes difficult to impose a single point of view


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well, place CNN against Al Jazirah, they will always say Al Jazirah is utterly wrong in their comments

and when you own like Warner (I think it's them) a few tv channels, radios, newspapers, ... it's one against many and people will believe the many (also cause they're from either their own country or have a better name

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In France I've never heard anyone saying that Al Jazirah was wrong just because it was Al Jazirah...
roll eyes (sarcastic)


And yes actually, My name is better than yours so people will trust me more easily ! erm


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till you say you're french wink

all I mean, is that the country of residence of a station heavily influence the people, especially if they're from the same country, and with Carver having so much, most people would believe him

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Re: Carter: a real threat?

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Originally posted by yerssot
As you people will probably know, in Tomorrow Never Dies (yes, the one with Terri Hatcher, aka Lois Lane wink), the mainvillain was mister Carter.

That Carter owned Carter Media Network and could reach millions of people and influence them...


Do you think this threat is real? Do you think it's possible in the "real world", or was it all farfetched?
Have far will someone go to make the news to get the scoops?


One has only to look to the UK to realise that Carver isn't such a fantasy figure after all. A certain Rupert Murdock has all the megolomaniac attributes Carver has, the only problem being he's in the "real" as opposed to "reel" world... sad

And I'd bet a hefty wager that that's exactly who Carver's character is based on!


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what does this Murdock own exactly?

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what does this Murdock own exactly?


BskyB - Britain's ONLY satellite television network , The Sun and News Of The World newspapers - the bibles for those that are angry, a little twisted and a bit mentally short of a six pack if you get my drift - and FOX Television in the US...

I'm not quite up to date on his LATEST acquisitions... sad


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those guys that own CNN, think it was WB? those have a LOT of media in hands!

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those guys that own CNN, think it was WB? those have a LOT of media in hands!


Yeah but when BskyB has loads of news channels on it... sick


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sorry, don't know BskyB smile

have you noticed them spreading false info?

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sorry, don't know BskyB smile

have you noticed them spreading false info?


Ahem! False? confused Let's just say ammended to their own ends... wink


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