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USH'S STAR WARS GAME- Pending rules changes (ahh feck...)
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Ushgarak
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USH'S STAR WARS GAME- Pending rules changes (ahh feck...)
I didn't want this to happen, but it is...
Some more recent playtesting at home has uncovered some gameplay issues with the current Star Wars rules, so it's being tweaked to a new .1 version. The main worries are:
1. People doing absolutely anything to claw back frames because frames are so darn valuable
2. People fighting in really gay ways to get around not having Total Cover
Frames are the big problem, in the Matrix also. In the Matrix combat is supposed to be really tactical so it is not so bad, but in Star Wars, people around here are getting a habit on concentrating more on hardcore system advantage in the way of frames than they are on, like, playing a STAR WARS game...
So, sorry, but a few things will change, which may mean having to tweak your characters but at LEAST we have not started play yet, and I am hopeful I can fulfil a guarantee that there will be no major changes once we start play.
You can expect the following to happen:
1. Total Cover will disappear. All Force users will have 360 degree Lightsabre protection
2. Block will change into a power like Mind of the Warrior. The dodging power of Mind of the Warrior, if it continues to exist, will move into block
3. There will be some new force powers for defensive use, and also one to give multiple attacks (the interrelation of force/blade tricks will continue in that vein- some blade tricks duplicate force powers on the idea that they are kind of force powers in of themselves)
S, apologies to anyone who took Total Cover, Mind of the Warrior or Block.
Most the system is static at this point; the main worry is that the fights might become dull if the conentration comes on finding small system advantages- as players like to do, of course!
Anyway, sorry about that, and I shall update the new rules ASAP.
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Last edited by Ushgarak on May 2nd, 2004 at 02:35 PM
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May 2nd, 2004 02:01 PM |
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xeous
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Bah, Ush...You smashed Christof with one blow of your mighty Game God powers. I have to remake him now 
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May 2nd, 2004 02:21 PM |
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Ushgarak
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My apologies
We are going to try and think of a new blade trick, else we might run into this problem where ALL Dark Siders take Block and Mind of the Warrior for the real hardcore combat advantage (with a sideline of ricochet and Carnival of Carnage, always a powerful trick, that last one). Problem is, there is only so much you can do with sabres and still keep them even vaguely balanced.
Light Siders, at least, can find more attractions in Bodyguard and Strike to Subdue.
At this point, the new power Force Guard is going in after Reflection, and Force Cleeve just went in... after Speed, I think. Or maybe Strike.
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"You've never had any TINY bit of sex, have you?"
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May 2nd, 2004 02:37 PM |
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Tptmanno1
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Ush got a little pissed off I see.
Thats OK, I'll just have to rework my char a little, no biggie.
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May 2nd, 2004 04:10 PM |
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REXXXX
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Ahh feck...
I knew this would happen eventually, it always does with the Matrix RPG...
Well, Galder might need some new tricks. I don't remember what I gave him off the bat.
For Takuan and Nume, where the hell does Force Lightning come in? 
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May 2nd, 2004 10:15 PM |
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Peach
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I took Block, so I guess I may have to change something...oh well, I'll worry about it later.
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May 2nd, 2004 10:16 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Pfft, Lightning...
In theory it would be a Dark Side power that also required at least the entire Kinetic Tree.
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"You've never had any TINY bit of sex, have you?"
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May 2nd, 2004 10:18 PM |
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Fire
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doesn't seem like much that concerns me that thing about the frames was to be expected no?
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May 2nd, 2004 11:01 PM |
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Ushgarak
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It's a real problem with Jedi.
Annoyingly, of course, I used a ton of zero-frame dodges in that play example...
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May 2nd, 2004 11:08 PM |
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REXXXX
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Ah, I didn't get what you were saying about the frames...
Now I do. 
Damn, now I was hoping you didn't notice...
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May 3rd, 2004 02:52 AM |
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Fire
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idd ush, that is a very valuable power indeed
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May 3rd, 2004 07:49 AM |
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Ushgarak
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Well, it's only a frame; same deal as, say, Strike gives you. But there are a lot of these around and Swordsmen types were starting to get a habit of moving twice as fast as everyone else by saving frames.
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"You've never had any TINY bit of sex, have you?"
BtVS
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May 3rd, 2004 10:01 AM |
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Fire
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maybe making it more expensive, or giving it another draw back?
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May 3rd, 2004 10:02 AM |
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Ushgarak
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You can't make Blade Tricks more expensive, and there is no call giving them drawbacks either. It is also vital that any progression remains very simple.
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"You've never had any TINY bit of sex, have you?"
BtVS
Last edited by Ushgarak on May 3rd, 2004 at 10:37 AM
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May 3rd, 2004 10:25 AM |
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Fire
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okie looks like it's gonna be tough
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May 3rd, 2004 10:29 AM |
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Ushgarak
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Yeah
But what will basically happen is that just about anything that makes you faster (i.e. saves you frames) is going to be looked at and either be removed (for Blade Tricks) or increased in prince (for Force powers).
In Matrix, attacks that speed you aren't so bad as they are at the expense of a power that might make you hit harder. But in Star Wars, your lightsabres hit as hard as you will ever need, so speeding you up is far more lethal.
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"We've got maybe seconds before Darth Rosenberg grinds everybody into Jawa burgers and not one of you buds has the midi-chlorians to stop her!"
"You've never had any TINY bit of sex, have you?"
BtVS
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May 3rd, 2004 11:12 AM |
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Fire
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true, good thing you caught it
(I was wondering maybe just say you can use a saving power only like once or twice in a round (aka till all your frames are used up))
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May 3rd, 2004 12:13 PM |
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Ushgarak
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No- on no account are we going to introduce more things for players to remember...
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"You've never had any TINY bit of sex, have you?"
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May 3rd, 2004 05:50 PM |
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Trickster
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Thank the Lord!
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May 3rd, 2004 05:57 PM |
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Fire
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lol you think players are that dumb?
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May 3rd, 2004 06:06 PM |
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