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Sun Worship, and The Illuminati
I think it's about time people realise the connection between Sun Worship, and the illuminati. This subject has pretty much been neglected, But plays such amjor role in the Illuminati conspiracy, it's ridicules that it hasn't had a thread yet. So my friends let Ashtar enlight you on what roles does it play.
This symbol is synonymous with the Crucifixion of Christ, but where did it come from, and is it really associated with Christianity?
First lets us go back to the Crucifixion of Christ, Though the Gospel does not specifically describe the instrument that Jesus died upon, tradition has it that he was put to death on a cross; consisting of a stake and a crossbeam. The Greek stauros is sometimes used to describe a simple stake, and other times a more complex form such as the cross. To determine what appearance the stauros took in Jesus' death, we need to consider what the Greek language tells us, what history tells us, and most importantly, what the Bible tells us.
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From the definition we find that, stauros is an upright stake and not a cross. so where did this cross come from?
The cross is an ancient symbol which predates christ, infact it has many variations including the Swastika.The sun cross is a cross inside a circle, one of the oldest and most universal religious symbols , and a traditional neopagan solar symbol. It is also known as the suncross, solar cross, sun wheel, sunwheel, sun disc, Odin's cross, and wheel of Taranis. It is sometimes called a "Gnostic cross".
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It's because of the catholic church, I'm sure many people here now by now that many so called "Chirstian Holidays" are infact pagan. Easter is another pagan holiday also, so what are these holidays and why are they intergrated into catholicism?
Christmas and Easter are derived from several pagan holidays, such as : The festival of Saturnalia,Yule, etc
these festivals are honorings of the winter soltice ( the longest night of the year)
Some other names for this Sabbat that are used less commonly are: Sun Return, Pagan New Year, Saturnalia (Roman), Great Day of the Cauldron, and Festival of Sol.
The winter soltice involves the death of the sun god, this theme is seen many time in many religions. the reason being is Solar worship or heliolatry is pre dominate in many religions.
"Sun worship is a possible origin of henotheism and ultimately monotheism. In ancient Egypt's Eighteenth Dynasty, Akhenaten's heretical Atenism used the old Aten solar deity as a symbol of a single god. The neolithic concept of a solar barge, the sun as traversing the sky in a boat, is found in ancient Egypt, with Ra and Horus. Proto-Indo-European religion has a solar chariot, the sun as traversing the sky in a chariot. In Germanic mythology this is Sol, in Vedic Surya and in Greek Helios and (sometimes) Apollo. Mesopotamian Shamash plays an important role during the Bronze Age, and "my Sun" is eventually used as an address to royalty. Similarly, South American cultures have emphatic Sun worship"
"The "missing sun" motif is a theme in the myths of various cultures. It may have served to explain any of several natural phenomena, including the disappearance of the sun at night (the Egyptian version of the motif described below is an example), the shorter days during the winter (for example, the Japanese one mentioned below), or even solar eclipses. Most myths following the motif involve the disappearance of a solar deity, through imprisonment, exile or death."
doesnt really fit in here, well sort of and i didn't want to start a new thread just because of it.. but this presentation should give viewers a grass root understanding of symbolism..
Subversive use of Symbolism in the Media
by Michael Tsarion
jesus was the light of the world..exactly a sun symbol.
The crucifixion of Jesus was an allegory, a symbolic event written to carry a hidden meaning. It did not physically happen, you are just meant to think it did. And what of the physical resurrection from the dead by Jesus?
St Paul is quoted as saying of this event in his first letter to the Corinthians:
“But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.” Corinthians 15:13-16
He says that if Jesus was not physically raised from the dead, there is no basis to the Christian faith and religion. If that’s the case, Christianity is in serious trouble.
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Yeah, but it's quite obvious jesus's real teaching's werechanged, look at the story of st. Essa ( who is supposedly jesus) if one reads the bible we see jesus preach the golden rule and philosophies of non violence. jesus is like the buddah of the west, less then 10% of his true teachings are actually in the bible, Even though i'm not a catholic anymore, I still vernerate jesus.
"David Tsarion"Saw the vids, visited his website, interesting stuff.
The question is is he just a good talker and has a good imagination, or is there a basis to his claims.
Theres is definetly some force behind the scenes controlling stuff, but if he has the key to it all then why hasn´t he "vanished" yet?
Thats a kind of of rash statement, any evidence or are you just trying to upset some christians?
He obviously did exist otherwise he wouldn´t be so famous, what he was and what he did could be argued about seeing as the accounts of his life were written way after his Cruxificion.
It has nothing to do with the "concept", there have been loads of so called savours, and more will appear.
The proven blood line from David, and other prophecies which came true concerning him make Jesus unique. That and anyone who has read the bible accounts of him and his sayings must surely realise he is something special.
Instead of just repeating what you read on some website, or saw on some documentry It would eb best to actually read the Bible, a modern one with all this "thou art" business missing.
hilarious. do some reading man. the only accounts of jesus existing comes from the bible. no where outside those texts states he even existed.
i really feel for humanity because they have been had, big time
The invented character of Jesus was a Sun god, symbolic of God’s ‘Sun’... The Light of the World. This very phrase, Light of the World, was used by the Aryan-Phoenicians to symbolise the ‘one true god’ thousands of years before the alleged birth of Abraham, the quite wrongly named creator of the one-god concept. They also symbolised the one true god, the Sun, with the ‘one true cross’ The Christians portray Jesus with a halo around his head and that’s exactly how the Phoenicians depicted the rays of the Sun around the head of their Sun god, Bel or Bil. This can be seen on a Phoenician stone dating to about the 4th centurv BC . The Sun was at the heart of the Egyptian religion and at noon when the Sun was at the peak of its daily ‘journey’
To understand the true background to the religions, we need to appreciate the basis of all ancient religion going back to the Phoenicians, the Babylonians and beyond. It was the Sun. The hierarchy focused on the Sun because, as I outlined earlier, they understood its true power as an amazing generator of electromagnetic energy which is affecting our lives and behaviour every second of every day The Sun contains 99% of the mass of this solar system. Just think about that. The Sun is the solar system and when it changes, we change. Understanding these Sun cycles, and the changing nature of the energy it projects, allows you to anticipate how human beings are most likely to react to various events at different times. As with the texts that form the basis of the various religions, there are two levels of knowledge in Sun worship. In the ancient world, the hierarchy focused on the Sun because they knew its effect at a deep level, while the masses worshipped the Sun because its heat and light had an obvious and crucial role in ensuring an abundant harvest. In the same way, an initiate of the esoteric knowledge will read the Bible differently to a Christian or Jewish believer.
The initiate will recognise the symbolism, the numerology and the esoteric codes, while the believer takes the text literally So the same text acts as a means of passing on esoteric knowledge to the initiated and creates a prison-religion for the masses who are not initiated. Great scam.
The ancients took them circle of the zodiac (a Greek word meaning animal circle) and inserted a cross to mark the four seasons. At the centre of the cross, they placed the Sun. So many of the pre- Christian deities were said to have been born on December 25th because of this symbolism. On December 2lst-22nd, you have the winter solstice when, in the northern hemisphere, the Sun is at the lowest point of its power in the annual cycle. The Sun, the ancients said, had symbolically ‘died’. By December 25th, the Sun had demonstrably begun its symbolic journey back to the summer and the peak of its power.
The ancients, therefore, said that the Sun was ‘born’ on December 25th. The Christian Christmas is merely a renamed Pagan festival, as indeed are all Christian festivals. Easter is another.
About March 25th, the old fixed date for Easter, the Sun enters the astrological sign of Aries the ram or the lamb. At this time the ancients used to sacrifice lambs because they believed this would appease the gods, most notably the Sun god, and ensure abundant harvests. In other words they believed that the blood of the lamb would mean that their sins would be forgiven.
Did Jesus actually exist? Did Moses, Solomon and King David exist? I would say categorically no. There is no credible evidence for the existence of any of them outside the biblical texts and they are certainly not credible. So where did they come from?
OK, a little quiz. Who am I talking about?
He was born to a virgin by immaculate conception through the intervention of a holy spirit. This fulfilled an ancient prophecy.
When he was born the ruling tyrant wanted to kill him. His parents had to flee to safety.
All male children under the age of two were slain by the ruler as he sought to kill the child. Angels and shepherds were at his birth and he was
given gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.
He was worshipped as the saviour of men and led a moral and humble life. He performed miracles which included healing the sick, giving sight to the blind, casting out devils and raising the dead.
He was put to death on the cross between two thieves.
He descended to hell and rose from the dead to ascend back to heaven.
Sounds exactly like Jesus doesn’t it? But it’s not. That is how they described the Eastern saviour god known as Virishna 1,200 years before Jesus is claimed to have been born.
If you want a saviour god who died so our sins could be forgiven, take your pick from the ancient world because there are a stream of them, all originating with the Aryan race that came out of the Near East and the Caucasus Mountains
Christianity is a Pagan sun religion, the worship of which is condemned by Christianity! It is also an astrology religion, the‘evil’ of which is condemned by Christianity, not least by the Pope! Beam me up Scotty,it’s mad down here. The church hierarchy, of course, know all this. They just don’t want you to know.
Horus was the the ‘son’ of God in Egypt. He was derived from the Babylonian Tammuz and, in turn, provided another blueprint for the later Jesus. [b]The connections are devastating for the credibility of the Christian Church:
Jesus was the Light of the World. Horus was the Light of the World.
Jesus said he was the way, the truth and the life. Horus said he was the truth, the life.
Jesus was born in Bethlehem, the ‘house of bread’. Horus was born in Annu, the ‘place of bread’.
Jesus was the Good Shepherd. Horus was the Good Shepherd.
Seven fishers board a boat with Jesus. Seven people board a boat with Horus.
Jesus was the lamb. Horus was the lamb.
Jesus is identified with a cross. Horus is identified with a cross.
Jesus was baptised at 30. Horus was baptised at 30.
Jesus was the child of a virgin, Mary. Horus was the child of a virgin, Isis. The birth of Jesus was marked by a star. The birth of Horus was marked by a star.
Jesus was the child teacher in the temple. Horus was the child teacher in the temple.
Jesus had 12 disciples. Horus had 12 followers.
Jesus was the Morning Star. Horus was the Morning Star.
Jesus was the Christ. Horus was the Krst. Jesus was tempted on mountain by Satan. Horus was tempted on a mountain by Set.
Jesus is said to be the ‘judge of the dead’.
He has some competition there. This was also said of the earlier Nimrod, Khrishna, Buddha, Ormuzd, Osiris, Aeacus and others.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last. So was Khrishna, Buddha, Laokiun, Bacchus, Zeus and others. Jesus is claimed to have performed miracles such as healing the sick and raising people from the dead. So did Khrishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Bochia, Horus, Osiris, Serapis, Marduk, Bacchus, Hermes and others. Jesus was born of royal blood. So was Buddha, Rama, Fo-hi, Horus, Hercules, Bacchus, Perseus and others. Jesus was born to a virgin. So was Khrishna, Buddha, Lao-kiun or tsze,
Confusius, Horus, Ra, Zoroaster, Prometheus, Perseus, Apollo, Mercury, Baldur, Quetzalcoatl and far too many others to mention. Jesus will, we are told, be born again.
The sky is going to be rather crowded because Khrishna, Vishnu, Buddha,
Quetzalcoatl and others, will also be there.
The invented character of Jesus was a Sun god, symbolic of God’s ‘Sun’... The Light of the World. This very phrase, Light of the World, was used by the Aryan-Phoenicians to symbolise the ‘one true god’ thousands of years before the alleged birth of Abraham, the quite wrongly named creator of the one-god concept. They also symbolised the one true god, the Sun, with the ‘one true cross’ The Christians portray Jesus with a halo around his head and that’s exactly how the Phoenicians depicted the rays of the Sun around the head of their Sun god, Bel or Bil. This can be seen on a Phoenician stone dating to about the 4th centurv BC . The Sun was at the heart of the Egyptian religion and at noon when the Sun was at the peak of its daily ‘journey’
The crucifixion of Jesus was an allegory, a symbolic event written to carry a hidden meaning. It did not physically happen, you are just meant to think it did. And what of the physical resurrection from the dead by Jesus?
St Paul is quoted as saying of this event in his first letter to the Corinthians:
“But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.” Corinthians 15:13-16
He says that if Jesus was not physically raised from the dead, there is no basis to the Christian faith and religion. If that’s the case, Christianity is in serious trouble.
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