Dwyane Wade is ranked 4th in points(869)
Vince Carter is ranked 14th in points(692)
Dwyane Wade also ranks 9th in assists(223) and 5th in field goals made(294) and also 6th is steals per game(1.91)
Vince Carter is ranked in the top 10 in only 2 statistics.
Dwyane Wade is ranked in the top 10 in 21 statistics, and 11 of them he is ranked #5 or better.
danzeke i can tell u r clearly a big dwayne wade fan, but statistics r nothing if ur team doesnt win, the heat are not the team they were last year... the nets have beaten the heat in both games on their home court and vince has already won the player of the month. i want to tell u another thing though... d-wade has taken more shots than vince, vince has a better leaping ability, can shoot the 3 MUCH better than d-wade. and has a better shooting game. in terms of driving to the basket i know d-wade has been doing more than carter in terms of impossible shots and dunking on every1, and thats why he is more recognized. i can tell... bcz he has more votes than vince in the all star balloting which is shocking. it all counts the sam, whether its a dunk, a layup, or a shot inside the outside line. skill wise, they both can dribble, both can drive, both can shoot free throws, vince has a better jump shot, and ill give d-wade as slight as an advantage can b in passing, because he is a pg/sg... vince doesnt play that position which is why he doesnt handle the ball nearly as much as wade. i know u will come back at me by saying vince is soft, but that is what he was..not what he is. when he gets hurt in new jersey hes back the next quarter, or the next game. its not the way it was in toronto. skill wise, pretty much the same. respect wise, d-wade has the advantage...half of canada hates vince for what he did which is why he is not in the top 10 in all star balloting.
Wrong. The Heat beat the Nets the first game 90-89. The Heat have played Indiana twice, Dallas, Detriot, San Antonio, Cleveland, Phoenix, and the Clippers each once, and all of them a pretty good. The Nets have played Indiana once, Cleveland twice, Phoenix once, Detroit once, and the Clippers once. So you have had 6 games against really good teams, the Heat gave had 8. You have played 30 games, we have played 34, and we have 1 more win and 3 more losses. So you can't say the Heat aren't winning, plus, the Heat has had more injuries.
we are supposed to b talking about d-wade and vince, lets not repeat their team, so.... answer back about what i had to say about who is better between the two and what they bring to the table
Well you were the one that said statistics dont matter unless you win.
Anyway, sure Vince is better then Wade at 3's, but Wade doesn't shoot 3's. And that says something because Wade still scores more ppg without shooting 3's then Vince does while doing pretty good at 3's. Wade. Wade also gets to the foul line more, and is very good when he is on the foul line. Wade is a better passer and way better at defense. And Wade also plays his best when his team needs it, especially when they are in the 4th quarter in a close game.
wade doesnt shoot a lot of 3s, andh hes shooting what.. 28% at most. vince and wade r both clutch players, do i have to remind u vince made the game tying 3 at the buzzer against miami in game 4 of their series. i know they got sweeped and my bad, i forgot new jersey had lost that game because vince did not get the foul call he deserved but hes getting PLENTY of them now. vince averages atleast 10 free throws a game... and just like i said vince is a much better jumpshooter than dwaynewade which is why he doesnt drive every posession like wade, does most of the time. thats why he doesnt shoot as many free throws. vince is the most athletic person in the league. dwayne wade said it himself and thats no joke. he was interviewed by someone on a show called nba xl, which im not sure they show in the states. o wait....ur from new jersey? lol. ok never mind i wont add to this comment.
Yeah Vince made that buzzer beater against Miami, but that wasn't a 3, it was a 2 from the corner. He also got a lucky roll, Also its his what? his 9th season in the NBA? In Wade's rookie season in the first round of the playoffs, he had the ball with like 8 seconds left, drove hard to the basket and made the shot to win the game. And he will do it plenty more times.
OMG I fully remember it was a 3.. they were down by 3 points otherwise y would u think they were trying to take a shot from so far out? vince attempted 3 3s to tie it, he missed 2 b4 that 1. and did u c vince make the 3 point buzzer beating game winner against his old team, the raptors? did u? 42 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists. 18/35 fg, above 50%. 3/5 3pt, 60%. and he got 2 threes in the last 20 seconds to win the game. 24 points in the fourth quarter when his team needed it the most.
No it was definatley a 2. They took a shot from so far out because there was no time left. If Vince would have took a dribble or anything then he would not have been able to got the shot off in time and they would've lost. It wasn't even that far out, maybe a little longer then how far a foul shot is.
OK? So you showed statistics to one game? I could show statistics to one of Wade's great games too. If you think I'm saying Vince Carter isn't good, thats not it. I'm just saying Wade is better. And I'm sure many people will agree with me.
Tanjot, you are obviously a big Carter fan which is cool. But if you are gonna start these threads then you have to expect people to disagree, bombarding people with stats and player of the month awards isnt gonna change their mind.
Vince is an exciting player no doubt and im glad he has answered some of his critics this year and raised his game in the last month or so. But i'd go with Wade here as well, he can do everything Vince does except shot from outside. He is a better defender, rebounder and passer. I think Carter vs T-Mac is closer than this one as they have a similar game and please dont start a Vince vs Kobe thread, that would be over before it began.
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VC is a better shooter. Thats about it. Dwyane Wade is much better all around. I also believe that in Tanjot's T-Mac vs VC thread that he kept using VC advancing to the second round as a means for showing who's better. So in that case, VC made it to the 2nd round once and Wade has made it to the 2nd and 3rd round. Not only that, but VC is 1 for 7 (14.3%) for making it out of the first round while Wade is 2 for 2 (100%) or even without Shaq he is 1 for 1.
As for awards (because I know you like discussing hardware ), VC has earned more but I would much rather take Wade's in a less amount of time. VC's most impressive awards are All NBA 2nd team (2001) and All NBA 3rd team (2000). Both quite a while ago (and for dunk contest, well that doesn't really show how good of a player one is). Wade by just his second season has earned All NBA 2nd team (equivelant to VC's most impressive award in 7 seasons) and All NBA Defensive 2nd team. Defense has never been something VC has been honored for.
Btw tanjot, even though so far I have disagreed almost 100% with your opinions of who is better thus far, I do respect your opinion and I thank you for bringing some liveliness to the forum.
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danzeke, i am 100% sure that it was a 3 pointer, vince took 2 3s b4 he made that one at the buzzer, he shot the first 1 with aboout 8 seconds left which is more than enough time to drive to the basket and attempt to draw the foul. i was watching the game, and that highlight has been shown many times before. next time u c it, u can assure urself because i already know that i am right. one of the announcers said it when they were showing the replay, "vince carter hits the 3 pointer at the buzzer to force the game into overtime." by the way, who saw vince play his old team? 42 points, 10 boards, 4 assists, and the game winning 3 pointer with 0.1 seconds left. 24 points in the fourth quarter.
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), VC has earned more but I would much rather take Wade's in a less amount of time. VC's most impressive awards are All NBA 2nd team (2001) and All NBA 3rd team (2000). Both quite a while ago (and for dunk contest, well that doesn't really show how good of a player one is). Wade by just his second season has earned All NBA 2nd team (equivelant to VC's most impressive award in 7 seasons) and All NBA Defensive 2nd team. Defense has never been something VC has been honored for. 
