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Worst trades of all time.....
what are some of the worst trades you guys have ever seen?
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one that stuck with me was the one where the rockets acuired barkley. is that the one where they gave up otis thorpe?
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good one, i forgot about that one. i just didnt get it when the rockets traded cassell, horry, AND thorpe. i admit, drexler was a welcome addition, but barkley? come on. then, when they added pippen to the mix, there wasnt enough basketballs on the court for them all.
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Barkley is a MVP, and hall of famer, you would be crazy not to want him.
I wouldn't call the Shaq/Miami or Tmac/Houston trades the worse trades either, both those players publicy acknowledged they wanted to be on different teams, and there teams did the best they could to get what was worth out of them.
Shaq to Miami? IMO that was a good trade, we weren't going to win any more championships with that fat lazy son of a ***** who didn't even want to be there. If he didn't want to be there I highly doubt that we would have kept up our winning ways.
Plus you have to consider the salary, we couldn't hold both Shaq's and Kobe at the same time seeing as how Kobe was a free agent and he was asking for the $$$.
The fact that we traded Shaq was not a bad thing, it is what we got in return. We should have traded him to the Mavericks to get Dirk or Twolves to get KG or just somewhere else where we could have gotten a superstar....
Wow, you are really mixed up on what happened with the Rockets. Thorpe was traded to the Blazers along with a 1st round pick and a nobody for Drexler and Tracy Murray. It seemed bad at first for the Blazers (Rockets got another championship), but it set the Blazers up for a strong 2nd half of the decade. Barkley was traded to the Rockets for the 96-97 season and they had 57 wins with Barkley, Drexler, and Olajuwon. They got to the western conference finals and lost in 6 to Utah, thats not too shabby. Drexler then retired before the 99 season and Pippen then signed. Pippen, Barkley, and Olajuwon had already been passed their prime by then, so that didn't work, but the last addition wasn't even a trade.
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Pippen was a pain in the ass as a Rocket though, his pride wouldn't let him recognize that he was past his prime and he did more b!tching and moaning than he did playing.
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i made it obvious that i forgot who traded who for who, only that we lost cassell, horry and thorpe. my logic here is that they won a championship with these three and they played awesome together. if you have a good mix of players, and they win a championship, you DO NOT change things. thorpe was a monster on the boards, and he was every bit as good a defender as barkley. barkley was a better scorer, but at that point, the rockets didnt need another scorer. they had olajuwon, maxwell, smith, thorpe, bullard, elie, cassell, and a few other good players. they had a great team, so why would they want to change?
i think that the reason they changed was for publicity purposes. acquire the hometown hero in drexler, get sir charles, pippen, hey, we have a dream team!!!
if it aint broke, dont fix it.
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It was broke though (minus the Drexler trade). The Rockets won in 94 with those guys. They then were OFFERED Drexler and Murray for Thorpe and a pick. It was in no way dumb of the Rockets to make that trade. Heck, they won another championship in 95. Then in 96, they got swept by the Sonics in 4 games (2nd round). At that point, they were "broke" and needed fixing. They brought in Barkley who improved them to 9 more wins that season (97 season) and they made it to the conference finals and brought the Jazz to game 6. So, I don't see what the problem was trading Thorpe, because they won another championship after that. I also don't see the problem in trading Cassell and Horry for Barkley because that improved the Rockets from the last season.
And again, Pippen didn't join the Rockets until after Drexler left, but the Rockets didn't give anybody up for Pippen. He signed.
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they won a championship with cassell and horry. with barkley? they won nothing. they lost to a utah team that they would have beaten with cassell, horry and thorpe.
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So you would take Cassell and Horry over Barkley, and I doube that Cassell, Horry, and Thorpe would've made a difference, Utah still would've beat them.
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houston was a better team with those three than they were with barkley. the chemistry was better. sure, their regular season record wasnt as good. i think the second year they won, 1995, werent they like the 7th or 8th seed? anyway, they came together and played magnificently through the playoffs. and i know you are gonna bash me for this, but i'd take thorpe over barkley anyday, because they had olajuwon already to score points.
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Wow. I'm not going to bash you, but just big time disagree with you. First, you seem to overlook the 96 playoffs. Cassell and Horry did not bring the Rockets a championship in that year. In fact, they didn't even get close. That is reason enough to make a change on the team, and trading them for Barkley drastically improved the Rockets. And I don't even know why you are comparing Thorpe and Barkley. First, its a dumb comparison. Second, Thorpe was gone for a couple seasons before Barkley was even brought in.
So again, how is this one of the "worst trades ever"? Adding Drexler brought another championship. Adding Barkley improved the team from the previous year. Neither were even bad trades for the Rockets, yet you think they deserve to be in the worst trades ever column? You didn't even have your facts straight. I think that is the only reason you actually thought that in the first place.
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whatever happened, whatever time it happened, whoever was traded wnehever is not the issue. my point is that they released and/or traded key players thast brought them titles.
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Thats like saying the Bulls never should have let Kukoc because he played a role in the Bulls championships. Teams can't keep living in the past. You don't keep players that were not the main piece in a championship that happened a couple of years ago if you have a chance to get a big time impact player that instantly boosts your chances of being on top again.
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Worst trade depends on point of views. The worst I can think of was the Minnesota Vikings trade to get Herschel Walker. But it was the best trade for the Cowboys seeing as how they ended up with Emmit Smith, Russell Maryland, Darren Woodson, just to name a few, but more important then that was the 3 Superbowls that came soon after the trade.
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