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Question The second greatest basketball player??

who do all of you think is the the SECOND greatest basketball player of all time?

now, we all know that Michael Jordan is the #1 greatest, but who's #2?

(and if you don't think Jordan was the greatest, then u need to keep quiet. i know its good to say yur opinion, but sometimes u just gotta accept it an bow down to the ****ing king! know wut i'm saying?
hands down, Jordan was #1.)

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Why not just say who was the greatest excluding Jordan?


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Why not just say who was the greatest excluding Jordan?


ok. whatever works.

Who is the greatest basketball player, exclluding Michael Jordan?

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NOt vince carter. just in case a certain someone makes a comeback.

wilt
kareem
bird
magic
iceman gervin
doctor j

christ.... this could take a while


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By dominance, Wilt. But his era was less Center-heavy, so he didn't have it as hard.

By talent, probably Kobe. But combine the two (talent/dominance) and I'd probably go with someone like Shaq.


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i think that if Allen Iverson was a couple inches taller, he would have dominated the league much like Jordan.

IMO, i think he wasted his youth by spending a decade with a second-rate sixers team that would never make it to the top.

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Bill Russell needs a nod.


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I will freely confess to knowing nothing about basketball. I am someone that doesn't live in the US, and takes no interest in basketball.

So, (possibly different thread idea, but anyway), here are the players that I, as a foreign person not interested in basketball, would think are good, purely through hearing their names mentioned, playing that old NBA game on the Gameboy, or NBA Jam, or whatever. I'm curious to see how accurate it might be.

Charles Barkley, Larry Bird, Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Kobe, and Magic Johnson.


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i think jordan is the 2nd best. karrem 1st


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I'm curious to see how accurate it might be.

Charles Barkley, Larry Bird, Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Kobe, and Magic Johnson.


You are on a good track. Those are all Hall of Famers (or future HOF) that could be argued in the top spots. Ewing being the worst of them followed by Barkley.


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Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I will freely confess to knowing nothing about basketball. I am someone that doesn't live in the US, and takes no interest in basketball.

So, (possibly different thread idea, but anyway), here are the players that I, as a foreign person not interested in basketball, would think are good, purely through hearing their names mentioned, playing that old NBA game on the Gameboy, or NBA Jam, or whatever. I'm curious to see how accurate it might be.

Charles Barkley, Larry Bird, Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Kobe, and Magic Johnson.
cant believe you even typed barkley. he does alright when hes got the ball in his own hands but why do you think hes been kicked off 2 teams in his carreer? he doesnt know how to get along with his team mates. out of all the players in NBA history i say he fouled the most as well.


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Very strangely-worded topic. By "best" what exactly is meant? Dominating? Floor Leader? Basketball-savyy? Scorer? Defender? Clutch? Athletic? All-in-one?

Jordan might be a few of those, not all. So which is it?


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cant believe you even typed barkley. he does alright when hes got the ball in his own hands but why do you think hes been kicked off 2 teams in his carreer? he doesnt know how to get along with his team mates. out of all the players in NBA history i say he fouled the most as well.


If you read my post, you'll see why.


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If you read my post, you'll see why.
i did


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Very strangely-worded topic. By "best" what exactly is meant? Dominating? Floor Leader? Basketball-savyy? Scorer? Defender? Clutch? Athletic? All-in-one?

Jordan might be a few of those, not all. So which is it?


dominating? jordan
floor leader? jordan
basketball savvy? jordan
scorer? jordan
defender? not the best, but still good enough
clutch? jordan
athletic? jordan
all in one? jordan

thats why i think he's all around the best.
but thank you for making the word "BEST" more specific.
seriously, thats not sarcasm.

so who do u think is second best?

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Floor leader - Jordan? He is the GOAT no doubt but their are much better floor leaders throughout basketball history imo, Magic being top of the list. Jordan had to learn to be a leader but players like Magic are born that way.

I think in terms of ability you have to say Wilt is the second best player, yes most of his records were set when he didnt have much competition but you cant deny how unstoppable he was (even today he would be putting up some scary numbers). Shaq could have been but he never developed anything outside of a dunk really and his FT shooting is his weakness. Shaq had all the skills and athleticism to be the undisputed GOAT if he had the work ethic, but once he won a championship he got content and never reached his unlimited potential (yeah i know he has 4 rings but with the teams he has had he should have more).
Personally i think Magic is the 2nd best player of all time but thats more because he is my favourite player. He has the skills and achievements to back it up but because he was an average defender i view that as a weakness. MJ had no weaknesses to his game thats why he is the GOAT, the only other player i can think of that had that kind of game on both ends is Wilt. Kobe has no weaknesses in his game to, but he still has a long way to go until we can judge his career as a whole.
You could make a case for other players like Robertson, Bird and Kareem, but i'll let someone else go into that.


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dominating? jordan
floor leader? jordan
basketball savvy? jordan
scorer? jordan
defender? not the best, but still good enough
clutch? jordan
athletic? jordan
all in one? jordan

thats why i think he's all around the best.
but thank you for making the word "BEST" more specific.
seriously, thats not sarcasm.

so who do u think is second best?



LOL!!! Wow, that can only be described as silly! Dude, seriously, take off the $200 Jordans, stop staring at his posters and get off his nuts. He was the best scorer at his position but not the best period. Chamberlain averaged over 50 for an entire season. Magic was hands down the best floor leader ever. If he was truly basket-savyy he would have not taken so many bad shots in his career and would have had a better filed goal percentage. He's one of the top 5 players ever!!! Not the best though.


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jordans probably the best all around player, but if you said for each stat etc then he wouldnt always be top.


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i did


No helping you then, is there?


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Well I understood what you were trying to say so I thought your post had its share of input. I hope my feedback was of better use to you than spidey-dudes.


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