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Jason Kidd......greatest PG ever?

I'd say so smile

Oct 19th, 2007 06:54 AM

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hes up there but what about Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Bob Cousy, Oscar Robertson?

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Better than Magic? No way.

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why would you say he is? you claim this but have no argument.

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IMO....(off the top of my head)

Magic
Stockton
Ocsar (if you consider him a PG)
Kidd
Nash
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Originally posted by Mr.Biscuits
Better than Magic? No way.

It's a push between the two for me.

Magic was a much better scorer but Kidd is a much better defender.

Magic also had the benefit of playing with at least one Hall of Famer throughout his career.

Kidd got VC......

Also

By rule I personally tend to ignore players from before the 70's

stat inflation, poor talent spread, less rules and such and I generally believe that with their skill set, they couldn't even start in today's league

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hes up there but what about Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Bob Cousy, Oscar Robertson?

Hate to disagree forum, but Kidd is no where near Magic's league.

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magic is #1

but currently, i think Steve Nash is the best point guard in the NBA.
i mean come on! he nearly beat Magic's playoff assist record last year.

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Nash may be the best in the NBA currently, but 3 seasons doesn't warrant being mentioned as one of the best of all time. His career doesn't come close to Kidd's or Magic's. I would have them as #1 and #2. Magic then Kidd.

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Hate to disagree forum, but Kidd is no where near Magic's league.

were not disagreeing. I agree that Magic is far above him, I think all the guys I mentioned are above Kidd. By saying he is up there I just meant Kidd is one of the best PG's of all time (meaning I would put him some where in the top 10) but definitely not THE best.

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wasnt Jerry West a point?

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Nash may be the best in the NBA currently, but 3 seasons doesn't warrant being mentioned as one of the best of all time. His career doesn't come close to Kidd's or Magic's. I would have them as #1 and #2. Magic then Kidd.

i'm sure his will compare by the time he retires.

Oct 20th, 2007 02:25 AM

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were not disagreeing. I agree that Magic is far above him, I think all the guys I mentioned are above Kidd. By saying he is up there I just meant Kidd is one of the best PG's of all time (meaning I would put him some where in the top 10) but definitely not THE best.

OK Cool, Where would you put Jerry West?

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Jerry is definetly up there he might be second to magic but not by much.

Oct 20th, 2007 03:26 PM

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Jerry West is not better then

Jason Kidd
Magic Johnson
John Stockton
Isaiah Thomas
Gary Payton
Oscar Robertson
Walt Frazier
Nate Archibald

Jerry West is, however, better then

Steve Nash

Oct 20th, 2007 09:53 PM

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YAY! Somebody else who believes Payton is better than Nash!

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gary payton was one of the best. one of the best defenders at the pg position ever in my opinion. he and shawn kemp were a ery dynamic pairing.

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YAY! Somebody else who believes Payton is better than Nash!

There are people who believe Nash is better then Payton?

Yeah...........................

at shooting.

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Let's put it this way, there were times in GP's career where he was considered better then Stockton (granted these were very rare occurances, but they still happened)

how could anyone think Stockton lite, pass the defense, is better?

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magic is #1

kidd is good

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Better than Magic? No way.

Indeed...Magic, Isiah Thomas, John Stockton, Cousy, Pistol Pete.....all better than Kidd.

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