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What's your take on the following?

Curious what some people think of the unusual matches I've seen over the years. Especially interested since one of the people I've regularly conversed with this past month said he was into mixed martial arts fighting. Curious what his take is, curious what the take of others is, curious as to what commentary I'll get on a few of these.

Short on time for typing right now; I'll present the following match to start things off:



Ernesto Hoost versus Bob Sapp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK-1...feature=related
(10 min 56 sec)

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Anyone vs Bob Sapp is at a disadvantage in physicality, but anyone past puberty is at a fighting advantage vs Sapp. He has proven through the years that all you have to do is weather the first 60 seconds and run around him, then punch or kick his ribs and he is down for the count.

To be fair, the first time he fought Hoost, he was still a feared opponent and no one knew how to knock down this Goliath.

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[T]he first time [Bob Sapp] fought Hoost, he was still a feared opponent and no one knew how to knock down this Goliath...



Fair enough, and, your input is appreciated, but, how do you explain the SECOND time of Sapp beating Hoost? This link had TWO fights; Bob won them both, despite Hoost being considered one of K-1's all-time greatests.

I DO wonder why in the world Sapp's team doesn't ever seem to have worked on either Bob's cardio or his pacing during a fight, though.
You would think increasing his endurance or teaching him to leave something in reserve for later rounds would have been been priority number 1 for any thinking fight manager.

Nevertheless, Sapp's fight plan WAS enough for Ernesto Hoost, and both times around, not just the once.

Again, Hoost was no simple tomato can -- he was 4 time K-1 Champion!
How did he lose the SECOND time to Sapp? What accounts for that?

Here, a link to the 2nd Hoost/Sapp fight by itself if you did not see it the 1st time:



Hoost Sapp 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60JcBLgfKXw
(7 min 9 sec)

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You have to remember a few things about these two fights:

1. Hoost was 36 years old and had been taking punches for 20 yrs professionally at this point
2. Sapp had not been defeated at this point by anyone(he had a loss, but it was by DQ)
3. Hoost had a terrible game plan. Anyone could see that the key would be leg kicks and body blows, but he did not continue to use either. Once he thought Sapp was hurt, instead of continuing to do what got him hurt, he instead began pounding on Sapp's head-which is the one place that he can take a punch.

I did not mean that the second time they fought, Hoost should have had it all figured out, because they fought the second time just two months after the first and it was more of the same.

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Thanks for your input, J.D.


Next up. Rousey versus Tate, a woman with 4 wins defeats the reigning champ of her division, apparently with strength alone ...?


http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/3/1...-tate-judo-chop

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