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Mangekyou Sharingan VS Rinnegan

Is the Mangekyou Sharingan stronger than the strongest of the 3 Eye Techniques?


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Who knows. The Rinnegan has done what? Besides let a person control multiple bodies at once of dead people? Kinda hard to say when Pein has one fight compared to all we know and have seen of the MS...which I guess by feats makes it stronger even though Jiraiya said Rinnegan was stronger..but then against what does Jiraiya know. How many Uchiha has he actually fought? And how many people would really know about the sharingan that he gets all his info from?


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Hard to say.

The Mangekyo Sharingan has shown more feats, and the Eternal Mangekyo allowed Madara to control the Kyuubi, the most powerful creature in Naruto.

There is probably more to the Rinnegan than we have seen, but right now it is unknown.


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The Rinnegan (݆h; Literally meaning "Samsara Eye") is the most powerful, revered and supreme of all the three main eye techniques (ͫg, d_jutsu). The Rinnegan is characterized by a number of concentric circles around the pupil of the user. It has recently been revealed that in addition to allowing an individual to quickly master various jutsu, the user may also use all six forms of nature manipulation. It was first possessed by the Sage of the Six Paths (, Rikud_ Sennin), said to be the founder of the ninja world and the creator of the first ninjutsu. Currently, the eyes are possessed by Pain.

Pain uses the Rinnegan in his fight with Jiraiya, summoning a total of six bodies that all possessed the Rinnegan. An ability gained by using the Rinnegan is that all the bodies can see each individual body's field of vision. Because of this advantage, one must be blinded in order for a blind spot to be opened. Pain also managed to summon numerous animals each possessing the Rinnegan and presumably sharing their sight.


Pain's fourth body Contrast to the anime, the manga has shown that the Rinnengan actually is purple in color. This mistake was most likely done due to the manga not releasing the color in time for the anime.

The Mangekyo Sharingan (ARд݆, Mangeky_ Sharingan; Literally meaning "Kaleidoscope Copy Wheel Eye") is a heightened form of Sharingan. The Mangekyo Sharingan is distinguished from a normal Sharingan through its appearance, which changes the form of the tomoe seal. The appearance differs from user to user; Kakashi's and Itachi's both resemble pinwheels, while Madara's and his brother's more look like more detailed forms of the basic three-tomoe Sharingan. Those who have the potential to obtain it must make a great sacrifice in order to obtain it C according to Itachi, they must kill their closest friend. Itachi, Madara, and his brother apparently do in fact do this to obtain the original version, but Kakashi has noted that everyone he cared about had died long before the start of the series, so how he developed his own variant is unknown. And apparently, the Mangekyo Sharingan can be transferred from person to person, as in the case with Sasuke. The major drawback of the Mangekyo Sharingan is that when it is first activated, it slowly begins to destroy the eyes until the user becomes completely blind. The only way to regain one's eyesight after losing it would be to steal the eyes of a sibling, combining the two Sharingan to create a new, more powerful, and immortal Mangekyo Sharingan which prevents blindness and might grant immortality.

In the long history of the Uchiha clan, only a few have been able to obtain the Mangekyo Sharingan-- Madara Uchiha being the first, and Izuna Uchiha being the second. At present, there are three people alive who can use the Mangekyo Sharingan: Kakashi, Madara, and Sasuke. Ironically, Itachi mentioned that if Sasuke could obtain the Mangekyo Sharingan, then there would be 3 people who can use it, and it's true because Itachi dies.

The Mangekyo Sharingan gives each user their own unique jutsu. Itachi's Mangekyo Sharingan enabled him to use Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and Susanoo. Kakashi's own version of the Mangekyo Sharingan allows him to use Kamui which creates a space-time jutsu of his own in which he creates a localized dimensional warp, drawing everything in the immediate vicinity of the point into a singularity. Sasuke's hasn't displayed any unique abilities aside from Amaterasu, but it seems to utilize Genjutsu like Itachi's did.

This is what each can do. Now choose.


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We already know what they can do.

And it is impossible to tell exactly which one is better as of now.


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Well Kento doesn't know its full power, and that is all Rinnigan can do.


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That is all it has been SHOWN to do, so far.

That is not all it CAN do.

And stop quoting wiki.


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Rinnegan founded ninjutsu, it probably has secrets but we don't know what they are.


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Sideous until Ragnos actually does something.


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Sideous until Ragnos actually does something.
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well for now most of the powers rinnegan have shown arent really what youd think an EYE jutsu wud do is it? i mean switching bodies, havinmg multiples, really the only EYE based technique that makes sense is seeing out of all your clone's eyes. eye dont know, it still isnt explained but they were said to be a tool of heaven which cud save or destroy the world. so i dunno.{on top of giving the person every chakra type} recently its revealed that the way jiraya died was through all 6 pains stabbing him so it was theorised that it was a super genjutsu, what we saw in the battle. and there are many genjutsu defences in the minds of all of pain's dead bodies. sumthing connected with konan having special powrs.

atleast with normal mangekyo sharingan, it makes sense, that its SIGHT based. tsukiyomi/illusion, amaterasu{ok hard to explain}, susano{again, mirror shield connected with vision }and dimension warp. but honestly, again, arent these all jutsus in their own rights and not DOUJUTSUS?

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Rinnengan.


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Agreed, Rinnegan has shown stuffs that the MS cannot replicate.

Until we see Madara use the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan, Rinnegan wins.


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Stronger in what way? Look in to a MS user's eyes and you lose, how do you get more stronger than that? Sure Rinnegan may be more versatile but in terms of efficiency MS has it beat in my opinion.

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Stronger in what way? Look in to a MS user's eyes and you lose, how do you get more stronger than that? Sure Rinnegan may be more versatile but in terms of efficiency MS has it beat in my opinion.


Most skilled high level ninjas would not need to look into their opponents eyes to fight them. The MS also takes loads of chakra and therefore strains the user. Rinnegan however has a more diverse means of attack, is not strenous on the user and can attack from a much wider range.


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Stronger in what way? Look in to a MS user's eyes and you lose, how do you get more stronger than that? Sure Rinnegan may be more versatile but in terms of efficiency MS has it beat in my opinion.
If you look in the eyes, sure. But that is a big if, and the MS, unlike the Rinnegan, drains you considerably with each use, and also blinds you and seals your Sharingan away forever, with Madara's EMS being the only exception.

Rinnegan has shown power over souls, sight similar to Byakugan, the ability to have six bodies, all of which can see everything every body sees, can use all 6 chakra types to maximum efficiency, one body can read minds, one can do powerful and rapid summons, one seems to be kinda like a machine that can fire missiles that do great damage, and probably more shit I forgot.


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lets go through pain'ss powerset again

9 illusionary dragons - sealing technique initiated by pain strong enough to seal even tailed beasts

all elemental affinity - he can use all elemental chakra perfectly in affinity with it as opposed to others who only have two affinities at best

magical rain - has a jutsu which can make rain fall over his entire country indefinately which can detect any change in pattern of falling and any chakra or person even if they are using high level jutsus to hide themselves

berserker - sumthing shown when nagato was a child, he loses conciousness when in danger and easily murdered a chuunin without knowing any nijutsu techniques unconciously

has nearly unbeatable genjutsu defences in the minds of all the bodies he uses.

has 6 bodies {which are sumhow connected with foes jiraya beat before, whether that was a genjutsu or sumthing else, we dont know}

all 6 bodies share the same conciousness and percelption hence giving him multiple perspectives to fight from

according to madara, has never lost a fight in his entire life

he can create CLONES of other ninja{s class and above, including some of the strongest in the narutoverse} who contain all their abilities, compareable intelligence, and 30% of chakra, and can even duplicate kekai genkai abilities like the sharingan[but not mangekyo], the clone itachi gave team 7 a run for their money, having high level instant genjutsu which he only needed tp point a finger to execute and the cloned kisame was beating lee/neiji/gai's team before gai decided to use his gates{on top of creating a lake of water}. so just imagine how powerful the actual guy, pain is.

killed the salamander who defeated konoha's entire army and te three sannin and hence gave them their title.

each body of pain's has special abilities, 1. absorbing even the most devestating attacks like oil blast lake, and ultimate raasengan of the sage form, using special black weapons, firing your fists, summongin MULTIPLE beasts all of whom are devestating in their own right even against the higher level summons and have special abilities like spouting bubbles

the bodies are practically immorta, as they were hit with an extremely high level genjutsu{which even impressed pain} and then all driven through by HUGE summoned swords, and all got right back up and went on to kill jiraya.

their ful abilities and those of the rinnegan havent been seen yet, we know that he is planning to attack and destroy konoha alone, and rikoudu, the creator of jutsus themselves and the ninja world had them, they were said to be a tool of the heavens which wud save or destroy the world.

by sealing the bijuu, pain is trying to create a weapon with the power to destroy a country in under a second and then be reused.

it is hinted that the real pain isnt even among the fighting bodies. and that konan has special powers connected with pain.

has telepathy with which he can communicate to all akatsuki over any amount of distance

astral projection - he can use it to project himself on the sealing statue from anywhere in the world and perform jutsus their

super strength - seen against jiraya and on his attack on konoha

soul sucking - he seems to have the power to simply snatch people's souls out of their bodies

missiles - can fire highly destructive guided missiles from one of his bodies

abiltiy to create clones of enemeis at 30 percent power even in astral projection for as he did against gai's team

ability to erect sextremely strong protective/sealign jutsus for the places where the sealing ritual is held

preception - the eyes can perceive chakra/seals/fields etc and have higher perception that normal eyes, although how they compare to mangekyo, we cant really know.

any1 who has opposed pain as of yet has died.

well, thats it for now, i know im forgetting sum feats/stuff. we dont really know how much of it is based on the rinnedgan.

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Sharingan gives you an incredible speed boost though and the ability to somewhat predict your opponent's moves.


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Rinnegan has shown power over souls, sight similar to Byakugan, the ability to have six bodies, all of which can see everything every body sees, can use all 6 chakra types to maximum efficiency, one body can read minds, one can do powerful and rapid summons, one seems to be kinda like a machine that can fire missiles that do great damage, and probably more shit I forgot.
Exactly, its more versatile but still easier for a MS user to win a fight. You can fight some one with Rinnegan if you are strong enough but tsukuyomi is an instant win at least in theory.

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lets go through pain'ss powerset again

9 illusionary dragons - sealing technique initiated by pain strong enough to seal even tailed beasts

all elemental affinity - he can use all elemental chakra perfectly in affinity with it as opposed to others who only have two affinities at best

magical rain - has a jutsu which can make rain fall over his entire country indefinately which can detect any change in pattern of falling and any chakra or person even if they are using high level jutsus to hide themselves

berserker - sumthing shown when nagato was a child, he loses conciousness when in danger and easily murdered a chuunin without knowing any nijutsu techniques unconciously

has nearly unbeatable genjutsu defences in the minds of all the bodies he uses.

has 6 bodies {which are sumhow connected with foes jiraya beat before, whether that was a genjutsu or sumthing else, we dont know}

all 6 bodies share the same conciousness and percelption hence giving him multiple perspectives to fight from

according to madara, has never lost a fight in his entire life

he can create CLONES of other ninja{s class and above, including some of the strongest in the narutoverse} who contain all their abilities, compareable intelligence, and 30% of chakra, and can even duplicate kekai genkai abilities like the sharingan[but not mangekyo], the clone itachi gave team 7 a run for their money, having high level instant genjutsu which he only needed tp point a finger to execute and the cloned kisame was beating lee/neiji/gai's team before gai decided to use his gates{on top of creating a lake of water}. so just imagine how powerful the actual guy, pain is.

killed the salamander who defeated konoha's entire army and te three sannin and hence gave them their title.

each body of pain's has special abilities, 1. absorbing even the most devestating attacks like oil blast lake, and ultimate raasengan of the sage form, using special black weapons, firing your fists, summongin MULTIPLE beasts all of whom are devestating in their own right even against the higher level summons and have special abilities like spouting bubbles

the bodies are practically immorta, as they were hit with an extremely high level genjutsu{which even impressed pain} and then all driven through by HUGE summoned swords, and all got right back up and went on to kill jiraya.

their ful abilities and those of the rinnegan havent been seen yet, we know that he is planning to attack and destroy konoha alone, and rikoudu, the creator of jutsus themselves and the ninja world had them, they were said to be a tool of the heavens which wud save or destroy the world.

by sealing the bijuu, pain is trying to create a weapon with the power to destroy a country in under a second and then be reused.

it is hinted that the real pain isnt even among the fighting bodies. and that konan has special powers connected with pain.

has telepathy with which he can communicate to all akatsuki over any amount of distance

astral projection - he can use it to project himself on the sealing statue from anywhere in the world and perform jutsus their

super strength - seen against jiraya and on his attack on konoha

soul sucking - he seems to have the power to simply snatch people's souls out of their bodies

missiles - can fire highly destructive guided missiles from one of his bodies

abiltiy to create clones of enemeis at 30 percent power even in astral projection for as he did against gai's team

ability to erect sextremely strong protective/sealign jutsus for the places where the sealing ritual is held

preception - the eyes can perceive chakra/seals/fields etc and have higher perception that normal eyes, although how they compare to mangekyo, we cant really know.

any1 who has opposed pain as of yet has died.

well, thats it for now, i know im forgetting sum feats/stuff. we dont really know how much of it is based on the rinnedgan.


9 illusionary dragons is only used to seal tailed beasts away. It is never used in battle. He has unbeatable genjutsu defences? Like what? His 6 bodies is a bullshit move that should have never been put as a feat for him. That is the only reason he beat Jiraiya, because of a bullshit technique. Only one of his bodies has missles. And I will say again, if he just had his one body, he wouldn't have the missle jutsu, the absortion jutsu, etc at all. His rinnegan is obviously his best feat. Rinnegan is alot different than mangekyuo. The only reason everybody who has opposed Pein has died is because of his 6 bodies. Without his 6 bodies, Jiraiya would have beat him. Actually they probably wouldn't have fought. Of course rinnegan has higher preception than normal eyes. He can use it to project himself on the sealing statue from anywhere in the world and perform jutsus their?

If I am wrong, please prove me wrong. Just like Sasuke, I am waiting for Pein to die.

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