So yammamoto is #1 in the hst now
Well being as hot as the sun and all he probably has taken edo madara's place as the strongest hst character. And that is hard for me to admit but there is no one in narutoverse or onepieceverse who can stop this beast agree(with the possible exception of edo madara)?
Originally posted by Rikudo senninWho are these most people?
LOL yammamoto before his bankai reveal was already considered by most people to be stronger than whitebeard with his bankai now he would utterly destroy him.
Certainly no people I would associate with.
Whitebeard's quakes get past his flame defense, being immaterial in nature, and are sufficient to brutalise him.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Who are these most people?Certainly no people I would associate with.
Whitebeard's quakes get past his flame defense, being immaterial in nature, and are sufficient to brutalise him.
Yeah good luck brutalizing someone who tanked a town buster. Yammamoto literaly just walks up to him and lets stupid whitebeard touch him incinerating his shit arm regardless of haki. Then he gets disintegrated.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Whitebeard can bust out city busters, which are stronger than town busters.Also, ET Madara would probably also beat Yamamoto.
City busters? Marineford is not that big and the best he did was CUT it in half unlike the explosion that literally would have obliterated karakura town.
Yes I know edo madara would put up a fight but it is very hard to imagine him fighting someone with armor as hot as the sun I doubt his susanoo can take it.
Originally posted by Rikudo senninThe island splitter was a city busting attack, going by volume of rock destroyed.
City busters? Marineford is not that big and the best he did was CUT it in half unlike the explosion that literally would have obliterated karakura town.
Yes I know edo madara would put up a fight but it is very hard to imagine him fighting someone with armor as hot as the sun I doubt his susanoo can take it.
He quakes the shit out of Yama's head.
Edo Madara's Final Susano'o has far too much destructive capacity, that the flame armour can't defend against. I would be unwilling to argue even Whitebeard against that shit.
Originally posted by NemeBro
The island splitter was a city busting attack, going by volume of rock destroyed.He quakes the shit out of Yama's head.
Edo Madara's Final Susano'o has far too much destructive capacity, that the flame armour can't defend against. I would be unwilling to argue even Whitebeard against that shit.
Too bad it does not compare to something that can actually destroy everything in it's radius plus the explosion was probably a city buster as it would have destroyed an area much larger than karakura town!
http://www.mangareader.net/94-48094-16/bleach/chapter-395.html
And no trying to touch yammamoto would be hard enough with the whole flight think and shunpo and all but hitting him when he is surrounded by that armor! That is just suicide! Then there is the fact that one slash from ryuujin jaka would heavily damage or even kill whitebeard who does not have the best durability
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Im not saying that the PS slashes won't hurt yammamoto cuz they will but if he were to fly straight forward and ram against it I wonder if it would be able to take sun temperture heat.
To be fair Yamamoto actually had to prep that...for some reason: even though by Aizen's own admission Yama was the strongest person there 😬
Yeah Whitebeard still kills Yamamoto. I could also argue Enel could take him on but..nah.
Hey Nemebro, why wouldn't you want to argue a Yamamoto vs Madara fight. Seems pretty interesting.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
To be fair Yamamoto actually had to prep that...for some reason: even though by Aizen's own admission Yama was the strongest person there 😬Yeah Whitebeard still kills Yamamoto. I could also argue Enel could take him on but..nah.
Hey Nemebro, why wouldn't you want to argue a Yamamoto vs Madara fight. Seems pretty interesting.
Prep does not matter he tanked a explosion that was said to be many times larger than a town so we are going on a city buster and maybe more.
LOL no Yammamoto>Whitebard
That was just to illustrate the point that Yamamoto can't city bust on the fly. Plus tanking that attack wasn't a walk in the park and Whitebeard can throw city busting quakes casually. Then there's the issue of Whitebeard being able to fight with far worse injuries then Yamamoto. So yeah Whitebeard would still win and the top three in Naruto can arguably match him as well.
But the next chapter of Bleach just might prove my first point moot.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
That was just to illustrate the point that Yamamoto can't city bust on the fly. Plus tanking that attack wasn't a walk in the park and Whitebeard can throw city busting quakes casually. Then there's the issue of Whitebeard being able to fight with far worse injuries then Yamamoto. So yeah Whitebeard would still win and the top three in Naruto can arguably match him as well.But the next chapter of Bleach just might prove my first point moot.
At least he actually tanked it whitebeard was pierced by fodder swords and weapons. Yammamoto>whitebeard in durability
"Casually" Whitebeard does not casually do that level of attack he obviously put alot of power into that.
There is the difference yammamoto would not get injuries like the ones whitebeard got from FODDER. Whitebeard has great endurance but not the best durability where yammamoto has both.
Whitebeard cannot even quake punch him with his arm being burnt away. And yammamoto has shunpo and flight to aid him. One slash from ryuujin jaka would probably kill whitebeard.
And I have not even included kido into the argument.
Whitebeard has tagged people faster...much faster that Yamamoto. Besides Whitebeard fighting while missing half a face from tanking an attack that vaporized a giant iceberg is no small feat. I'll give you the durability argument but Whitebeard can dish out that damage ten-fold.
How would Whitebeard be burned? He had no problem tagging Akainu and Aizen didn't disintergrate from stabbing him.
Yamamoto hasn't shown kido in his fights so I doubt that could be used.
And even if we were to let Yamamoto win for the sake of the argument he still wouldn't be the strongest in the HST. By powerscaling both Rikkudo and Enel are continent busters while Shirahoshi can summon Sea-king that could dwarf a city. I'd also like to mention that Enel is the only character in the HST that has actually busted an island on his own power and w/Maxim had the potential to destroy a continent: At least Skypea should be about that size IIRC.
Originally posted by Rikudo sennin Too bad it does not compare to something that can actually destroy everything in it's radius plus the explosion was probably a city buster as it would have destroyed an area much larger than karakura town!
http://www.mangareader.net/94-48094-16/bleach/chapter-395.html
No proof, all assumption.
Face it kid, quantifiably Whitebeard's feat is better. 👆
And no trying to touch yammamoto would be hard enough with the whole flight think and shunpo and all but hitting him when he is surrounded by that armor! That is just suicide! Then there is the fact that one slash from ryuujin jaka would heavily damage or even kill whitebeard who does not have the best durability
He took an attack that vaporised an iceberg the size of a mountain with relatively minor damage. He has quite good durability actually.
You could harp on about him being injured by the Marines, but that just proves the Marines are strong, not that Whitebeard is weak.
Also, Whitebeard doesn't have to touch Yamamoto, which you do not seem to grasp. His quakes are projectiles, and two casual ones shattered mountain-sized icebergs.
Im not saying that the PS slashes won't hurt yammamoto cuz they will but if he were to fly straight forward and ram against it I wonder if it would be able to take sun temperture heat.
Even if it cuts a hole in it, unless he hits Madara, Madara himself is fine.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Whitebeard has tagged people faster...much faster that Yamamoto. Besides Whitebeard fighting while missing half a face from tanking an attack that vaporized a giant iceberg is no small feat. I'll give you the durability argument but Whitebeard can dish out that damage ten-fold.How would Whitebeard be burned? He had no problem tagging Akainu and Aizen didn't disintergrate from stabbing him.
Yamamoto hasn't shown kido in his fights so I doubt that could be used.
And even if we were to let Yamamoto win for the sake of the argument he still wouldn't be the strongest in the HST. By powerscaling both Rikkudo and Enel are continent busters while Shirahoshi can summon Sea-king that could dwarf a city. I'd also like to mention that Enel is the only character in the HST that has actually busted an island on his own power and w/Maxim had the potential to destroy a continent: At least Skypea should be about that size IIRC.
Am I supposed to be impressed that a huge block of ice was vaporized by a huge amount of lava? Running hot water the equivalent of an icebrg would have melted it very fast as well. So it is not that impressive that he melted ICE WITH LAVA.
You clearly are mixing up durability with endurance. The lava easily burned right through his body. That is not durability as he was easily penetrated however it is an endurance feat since he still kept going.
He used haki to hit a distracted akainu but there not not enough haki in the world for him to penetrate yammamoto's sun level armor.
http://www.mangareader.net/94-48094-19/bleach/chapter-395.html
that and he was the one who put the barrier over the fake karakura town.
CURRENTLY he MIGHT be the strongest with the possible exception of madara. Rikudo is not alive so I do not include him. And enel is not a country buster he needed maxim which is not even part of his own power to destroy an island. That story of him destroying his home island might have been referring to him just destroying the villages and fields and killing all the people. And shirahoshi would get killed way before she can summon any sea king.
Originally posted by NemeBro
No proof, all assumption.Face it kid, quantifiably Whitebeard's feat is better. 👆
He took an attack that vaporised an iceberg the size of a mountain with relatively minor damage. He has quite good durability actually.
You could harp on about him being injured by the Marines, but that just proves the Marines are strong, not that Whitebeard is weak.
Also, Whitebeard doesn't have to touch Yamamoto, which you do not seem to grasp. His quakes are projectiles, and two casual ones shattered mountain-sized icebergs.
Even if it cuts a hole in it, unless he hits Madara, Madara himself is fine.
So your saying that aizen's statement is false cuz I do not think that yamamoto would have rused to stop the explosion if it was not as strong as he said it would be. Ennetsu jigoku was already said to be strong enough to wipe karakura town out so the idea that an explosion of yamamoto's condensed flames would not do it is foolish.
That is not durability look at what I said to the guy I quoted above you. "Casually" look up the definition he clearly put alot of strength into that.
My point is that being as hot as the sun he could probably burn through PS susanoo though that does not mean he will win as a few slashes could kill him before he reaches madara. Though I will say that I do think that I have changed my mind on edo madara being beaten because I wrote my statement in haste. Though I still beleive that Yamamoto>Whitebeard
Originally posted by Q99
Juubi's still much higher on the destructive scale.
Of course the juubi is stronger but it is not alive yet so im only going by people who are alive.
Though I did change my mind and now acknowlege that yamamoto would probably lose to edo madara.
