Minato Namikaze </> Top Tier OP Characters?

I was having a discussion Last night with a friend. Thought id get some thought on the forums.

I was saying due to the fact that many of the Logia and Paramecium Fruit uses have such powerful abilities, even the fourth Hokage couldn't match them. Like someone such as Kizaru wouldn't even get touched by the fourth due to his intangibility and the fact that he can move at the speed of light.

My Friend thinks due to his intelligence, Teleportation abilities, and speed alone would be enough for Minato.

So the question is Would he be match any of the Top Level OP characters? Or would he fall short?

No BFR possible so he'd fall short. There is literally nothing he can do to the Logia users and non-logias are much too fast, strong, etc.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
No BFR possible so he'd fall short. There is literally nothing he can do to the Logia users and non-logias are much too fast, strong, etc.

On another note i forgot some of the legendary Zoan fruit uses like Sengoku and Marko. Would he even be able to damage a giant golden Buddha? lol

He could beat Sengoku because Sengoku is made of fail.

^Only half kidding.

I personally did expect more from one of his punches, but its a good damage soak feat for Luffy i guess. seeing as how MR. 3, and Portgas werent all that damaged from it either.

I reckon he could beat, say, Law. But logias are a cut above him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I reckon he could beat, say, Law. But logias are a cut above him.

Now in the case of ace being killed by magma, could Minato pottentially use a counter element to a logia? Say earth against Eneru?

I suppose he could. But he can't. Minato lacks any elements iirc.

Yeah i dont think he can use earth it was just the first thing i thought of, lol.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
No BFR possible so he'd fall short. There is literally nothing he can do to the Logia users and non-logias are much too fast, strong, etc.

Fast? Pretty sure he's faster than they are.

I wonder if Rasengan would affect logia akin to a haki attack.

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What i was saying to my friend was that since OP is a Seperate universe from Naruto entirely, the chakra that the rasengan attacks wouldnt exist in anyone from the OP universe. Aside from it being so powerful that it broke through the armament haki, i dont think it would affect them the same way.

Originally posted by omgchos
What i was saying to my friend was that since OP is a Seperate universe from Naruto entirely, the chakra that the rasengan attacks wouldnt exist in anyone from the OP universe. Aside from it being so powerful that it broke through the armament haki, i dont think it would affect them the same way.

Rasengan doesn't attack chakra. It attacks things, using chakra.

Also, it uses chakra to keep a certain shape, a lot like what Haki does.

Originally posted by Q99
Fast? Pretty sure he's faster than they are.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I reckon he could beat, say, Law. But logias are a cut above him.

Law's ability neuters teleporting shuriken pretty hard though.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Based on?

Based on... Naruto generally having better speed feats over any significant distance, and Minato in particular having crazy speed?

Originally posted by Q99
Based on... Naruto generally having better speed feats over any significant distance, and Minato in particular having crazy speed?

Proof?

Originally posted by Bentley
Proof?

I think Q99 is going to use the outskirts battledome stuff which I have shown to be very problematic.

The one definitive speed feat I calculated for Guy (because it was based on the gravitational constant at sea-level...which doesn't get much more accurate for speed feat calculations) shows Guy to not be anywhere near sonic or supersonic like OBD has "come up" with. Granted, that was Guy before any gates.

Originally posted by Bentley
Proof?

Kisame and Gai both, in short order, crossing a larger distance than all of Marineform or Thriller Bark, both of which took the crew significant time to cover. Pain and Naruto doing the same when Naruto chased him out of Konoha (Pain being able to use a km+ radius move and it wasn't even in sight of Konoha any more).

Dadudemon

I think Q99 is going to use the outskirts battledome stuff which I have shown to be very problematic.

Nope, much more general, obvious stuff than that.

Characters in One Piece spend significant amount of time traveling distances Naruto characters travel much, much faster.

And in terms of short distance burst-speed, the stuff that the high-end Naruto characters are at least as impressive as the speed techniques like soru or gear.

Conversely- what proof is there of One Piece having higher? It seems to be just assumed, but I don't think there's much to back it up. One Piece does have higher strength, and I believe people just made the leap to assuming higher general stats.