Isn't meta human like not even mach speed? I would have pre-god Goku at relativistic (ftl with kaioken scaling) from piccolo's moon buster. Even kaioken scaling off of Goku training to be faster than lightning pre 23rd Budokai gives mach 70,400. The bog trio speed is what idk.
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If Kid Goku is ftl then how come it was taking adult Goku such a long time to cross Snake Way. Or how come it was taking Krillin hours to get from point A to point B on Namek?
Dodging laser beams is a common trope in fiction. Captain America is ftl as well going by your logic.
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SSJ3 Goku DC: solar system+
SSJ3 Goku speed: ftl
Bills, SSJG Goku, and Whis are obviously above SSJ3 Goku but I'm not sure where they lie. Don't see their DC as being galaxy level, though. Maybe multi-solar system destruction capacity.
Also, Super Buu in the anime was only threatening a universe by making alternate dimensions collapse or some shit through a chain reaction. Not like he was going to blow up a universe let alone a multi-verse with a blast.
Last edited by TheTyrant on Dec 26th, 2014 at 12:28 PM
Going by your logic, I could argue that Goku could fight faster than time itself by the Android saga.
I wasn't basing it off dodging lasers. I was basing it off of outrunning solar flare. To dodge something, you can be almost any amount slower than it. To outrun something, you have to be faster than it. Goku outran a flash of light.
I don't really see that as a true feat though, as it seems a bit outlier-y. I still consider Raditz FTL though, as he was able to side-step "The light of death". Not saying any of them can maintain that speed, but later on they sure can.
However, I base Goku's actual speed on his feat on Namek, when he flew across it in less than .000003 seconds. Namek is 3.5 times larger in circumference than Earth. This makes Namek base Goku 77,000 times faster than light. There is nothing to contradict that afterwords in the series.
I don't see why you're putting SSJ3 Goku at solar system DC. I don't know why that's so reliable of a DC for everyone, but that's not accurate. All that is based off of is inaccurate power scaling from the Frieza saga, which is completely incorrect in the first place, going by statements.
Super Buu was destroying "All of creation", throughout multiple dimensions. I.E. THE MULTIVERSE.
Plus, he was doing it with his ki. It doesn't matter if he was doing it by causing dimensions to collapse, he was causing mutliversal destruction through HIS ki. Making him a multiverse buster, and all of his attacks multiverse potent, since he was a multiverse buster with a shout. I guarantee that if Superman, or Galactus was destroying the multiverse with a shout, and someone stopped them, that you would take it as immediate fact.
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