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Babidi telepathy

What level would you rank Babidi telepathy if you had to rank him amongst Marvel telepaths?

Would he be a top tier telepath?


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No, probably not.

A character without any telepathy of his own was able to resist his telepathic control because he had goodness inside of him.

He's a fairly weak telepath. His telekinetic powers are surprisingly strong though.


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He's a pretty powerful telepath, being as he could connect the minds of everyone on the planet to talk to them, and show them Goten, Trunks, and Piccolo's images...

But who knows how many people actually exist on DB Earth...


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Babidi would probably be the strongest telepath in Marvel.

Marvel doesn't really have any telepaths that can stand up to DBZ telepaths.


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Babidi would probably be the strongest telepath in Marvel.

Marvel doesn't really have any telepaths that can stand up to DBZ telepaths.
Thats irrelevant and dumb.


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Thats irrelevant and dumb.


How's it irrelevant?

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Babidi would probably be the strongest telepath in Marvel.

Marvel doesn't really have any telepaths that can stand up to DBZ telepaths.
Because...DBZ has so many telepaths running around..


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I was under the impression that Babidi's telepathy was based around the magic he possessed?


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Presumably, since he is a wizard...


Hey Trunks, what's a wizard?

Well er... he is uh.... a wizard is like a lizard turned into a man!


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Babidi would probably be the strongest telepath in Marvel.

Marvel doesn't really have any telepaths that can stand up to DBZ telepaths.



Not in telepathy. Psychic wise, a lot of them show plenty more skill and ability with minds.


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Low tier. Any telepath of Marvel Can read a mind. Babidi was unable to find a person in earth, and unable to read the mind of a human had contact with him.

He was capable of broadcast his Message, but that was all.

About Vegeta, this was a spell, not TP.

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Uh, apparently you guys are forgetting the sheer scope of Babidi's telepathy. He EFFORTLESSLY read the minds of everyone on the ENTIRE PLANET, including the Z-fighters, projected the image of Buu destroying cities to everyone on the planet, and simultaneously blew up the heads of people who gave him useless information, ALL AT THE SAME TIME, and for HOURS.

He simply couldn't find the Z-fighters because he can't sense ki, lol. What good does the information that they're in a fortress floating above Earth do for him, when he can't find the damn floating fortress?

And the Vegeta thing, Nemebro, was a spell that Babidi used to control the evil in Vegeta's heart. The only reason he managed to overpower it was because his pride was greater than his evil, which was explained THOROUGHLY in the episode. I consider you re-watch them.

Any feats of people resisting Babidi's TP in the Buu saga were feats of resistance to planet level telepaths for them, NOT feats of weakness for Babidi.

Stop undermining DBZ feats because you don't want to accept how strong they are.

Babidi's telepathy is on the level of Charles Xavier, and J'onn J'onnz, from their respective comic series. thumb up


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Well all of his telepathic feats were done by magic so he technically isn't psychic but realistically there is no real distinction.

He's able to instantly open a line of communication with all intelligent life on Earth. He can send them images but requires the targets to close their eyes first. He's able to passively sustain the connection to all the planet but cannot find specific individuals in question. Once a person has contacted him he is able to communicate with them and read their thoughts, even being able to kill them should the need arise. He can control minds but they can resist him and he has the ability to teleport his targets to other locations within a set of parameters(namely through his ship he can transport anyone to any place in the universe but there must be a door to his ship at said location).

I can't think of anymore and I don't know Marvel enough to compare. *shrugs*


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And I can imagine. It must be pretty embarrassing to be completely proven wrong, to the point where your last resort is childish, petty insults.

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Well all of his telepathic feats were done by magic so he technically isn't psychic but realistically there is no real distinction.

He's able to instantly open a line of communication with all intelligent life on Earth. He can send them images but requires the targets to close their eyes first. He's able to passively sustain the connection to all the planet but cannot find specific individuals in question. Once a person has contacted him he is able to communicate with them and read their thoughts, even being able to kill them should the need arise. He can control minds but they can resist him and he has the ability to teleport his targets to other locations within a set of parameters(namely through his ship he can transport anyone to any place in the universe but there must be a door to his ship at said location).

I can't think of anymore and I don't know Marvel enough to compare. *shrugs*


Well it doesn't matter if they're done by magic, or not. That just means that he uses a different power source, like Captain Marvel, or any other magicians from DC, and Marvel. He still accomplished the feats, which is what's important.

But it makes sense to me that he can't locate someone, like a GPS, just from reading their thoughts. That shouldn't matter, considering he can still pop their head, as long as they don't have mental defenses, or strong enough ki control.

And don't forget that he can also construct magical barriers, with solar system level+ durability. Like he did when he survived Vegeta's final explosion, which was a near SSJ3 level full power attack. Even SSJ2 level characters are solar system busters.


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Well it doesn't matter if they're done by magic, or not. That just means that he uses a different power source, like Captain Marvel, or any other magicians from DC, and Marvel. He still accomplished the feats, which is what's important.

But it makes sense to me that he can't locate someone, like a GPS, just from reading their thoughts. That shouldn't matter, considering he can still pop their head, as long as they don't have mental defenses, or strong enough ki control.

And don't forget that he can also construct magical barriers, with solar system level+ durability. Like he did when he survived Vegeta's final explosion, which was a near SSJ3 level full power attack. Even SSJ2 level characters are solar system busters.


It matters because we don't regulary compare the strength of say Doctor Stranges telepathic abilities to the likes of Xavier or Emma Frost. We don't because the powersets from which the telepathic abilities originates are inherently different. If anything we talk about how the resistance of Doctor Strange is to a top tier telepath. What makes this difficult is that you don't see Babidi pulling people into the astral plan or engage in a telepathic combat with anyone, which makes him even harder to gauge. And blowing up the head isn't telepathy, it's telekinesis. What we see (as I read the manga) is that he has some high ends (all minds on the planet), that places him with Xavier and at the same time some low ends, (not able to actually read the minds) placing him around Chamber, who can't read mind but still makes contact.


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And I can imagine. It must be pretty embarrassing to be completely proven wrong, to the point where your last resort is childish, petty insults.

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Literally every dumb ass post you've ever made. thumb up


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