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Just HOW strong is the super Dragon?

I'm curious after reading chapter 42 where it states again that no wish is beyond the Super Dragon's power. Just how strong does everyone think the Super Dragon is?

Does Grand Priest really mean literally " no wish "? So I can wish for " No more Zeno," and it will be granted? We believed that other dragons had ultimate power only to reveal that they indeed had certain limitations. Clearly Super Shenlong has been flagged as truly a limitless wish dragon. But what does that say about Zalama? I mean, isn't he the one that created the balls back in the day?


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For Daishinkan to state this:
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And for the Zen-Ohs to state this:
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Speaks volumes, given that they are the two(or rather, three) most powerful beings in the whole of DB creation. Accolades from them carry a lot of weight, imo, and heavily imply that the Super Dragon's wish-granting abilities are about as unbounded as it can possibly get in this franchise.

That said, we have two key instances to go by where Zen-Oh and the Dragon are concerned:
1.) Zen-Oh essentially undoes a wish from the Super Dragon when he perma-kills 'immortal' Zamasu.
2.) The Super Dragon essentially undoes Zen-Oh's erasure(s) when it resurrects all universes that Zen-Oh had destroyed.

Could the Super Dragon kill Zen-Oh, though? Impossible to say. Seems like an "unstoppable force vs. immovable object" sort of scenario to me. /shrug


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That moment a plot twist occurs and zeno is actually the son of the true Omni king

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Did the Zeno really defeat the Dragon's wish, though?

Remember, Beerus himself can "destroy" immortals. He threatened to destroy Freeza's soul.

Killing someone, and utterly erasing them, soul and all, are treated like two different things.


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^ Beerus cannot kill true immortals:
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^ Beerus cannot kill true immortals:
https://i.imgur.com/trT37Z9.jpg


Can't kill, no.

But what's that other method they have? I assume eraseing/destruction?


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Erasing/destroying = killing, which Beerus explicitly cannot do to true immortals.

Likely a means of imprisonment, as Whis said the technique was more convenient than Mafuba.


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Wasn't it Beerus who sealed the Elder Kaioshin in that sword Gohan used? Maybe something like that?


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Good point. Now that you mention it, I'm sure that's what they were referencing. thumb up


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