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Dr. Leg Kick
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Philosophy: People born good or evil?

John Locke said people were born good. Thomas Hobbes was against that idea and said that people were born evil. They were not always disagreeing. They both agree on the idea of a Social Contract. ill add more info later...maybe. smile


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Dr. Leg Kick
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i say evil, because if their was no obedience, people would be wild animals.


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Lightningrod
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There is good and evil.

I have to say neither because someone has to have the sense of being evil or good.


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Dr. Leg Kick
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well people change throughout their lives. im talking about when they are born.


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some people are just born evil and good thats just how it is


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Well first you have to define "good" and "evil"


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Someone is born pure, the factors around them help to decide if a person can be considered evil or good. Such as environment, family, friends and morals. Then the initial decision is finally made by the individual themselves

That's my theory at least


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I agree with Hobbes; people are born evil.


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quote:
Originally posted by DemonicGambit
Someone is born pure, the factors around them help to decide if a person can be considered evil or good. Such as environment, family, friends and morals. Then the initial decision is finally made by the individual themselves

That's my theory at least


I second the above statement.

I was gonna type out the exact same thing almost word for word but I decided it was easier to just quote someone.


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Dr. Leg Kick
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evil as in not doing good.
good as in not doing evil.
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Ummmm...............yeah, and???? confused


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Dr. Leg Kick
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113 asked "Well first you have to define "good" and "evil"" and i did. lol


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laughing out loud

I thought you were referring to me and I was like ummmmm I already know that.............


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Dr. Leg Kick
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lol that would be strange


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quote:
Originally posted by h0ck3yh0rr0r
evil as in not doing good.
good as in not doing evil.
lol



Well what is "good" and what is "evil"?


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Good is what is done for the benefit of the whole or another single person. And bad is what is the exact oppposite of that


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mechmoggy
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Kids are born evil...they can be horrible, selfish, jealous etc. Its not their fault, they just don't know any better.

Grown ups can still feel these things, they know its wrong. But alas grown ups lose the innocence that kids have and become cynical and lose faith in mankind.

Man, its a bit early for this kinda thing... wink


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nemo
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i don't think we can really say what a person is born with.
babies are born with a whole set of instincts that is designed to get them through the early yrs, like crying for what you want, and being jealous and selfish and spoiled is actually a way for them to get the attention and whatever things that will increase their chance of survival. and being an only child or being born into a crowd of siblings could really influence your bahaviour from childhood onward. i saw a documentary that studies these beahviour.
and now there is studies that might prove that there are genes for violence or anger or criminal behaviour, so it's like we could be evil because we have inherit these genes.
but whatever we are born with, i think nurture plays a more important role in our development. nature could only do so much, but the enviroment that you are born into, and the things that you experienced, will really mold you into who you will become.


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must_kill_Santa
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i think people arent born either good or evil and your life expereances decide how you are


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as far as I know, there has never been conclusive evidence that shows ppl are born good or evil, so i say neither


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