Robespierre Quote

does anyone agree with this quote by Maximilean Robespierre.
"Liberty cannot be served until criminals lose their heads."

i dunno there are still some countries that are based on this math problem 🙂
steal + food/money= cut ur arm off.
i dunno i kinda agree with this. some people like the system that if u do the crime u pay the time. i dont think jail helps criminals. i actually like the old system. but not too harsh. Robespierre would send criminals too the giljotiini
later on he was overthrown, arrested and sent to the gilijotin.

I think it's positively absurd. I don't believe in capital punishment. There is no penance for the wrongdoer - just extermination for the "innocent." I feel that anything which would permanently harm a criminal is wrong, as we are not telepathic and incapable of judging the mindset of the accused, regardless of the circumstances.

I for one agree with Robespierre but not with the massacre that he was the cause of. Society needs punishment in order to exist. Without it there is no order and chaos ensues, but what kind of punishment. The law forbids "cruel and unusual punishment" but punishment by definition must be "unusual" and even "cruel" to a degree, so it's my belief that for punishment to be effective it must be HARSH! But also precise as possible, now of course no system is perfect so mistakes will be made but if lead by people who truly believe in fairness and justice (BIG if) capital punishment would be a great benefit to society.

do you guyz think there ever will be a perfect system? i honestly dont.

What do you do with a kid that steals bread to feed? Cutting his head would be wrong. I say, amputate his left leg - this way he can't run away if he steals again.

true true. but were their any witnesses when he stole the bread?

Originally posted by h0ck3yh0rr0r
do you guyz think there ever will be a perfect system? i honestly dont.

Perfection is such a subjective thing that it's impossible for everyone to agree when or if it is achieved.

if nothing is perfect in the world, then y do people say practice makes it perfect...even if it doesn't... hmmm

I didn't say it doesn't exist, I said that it is subjective and people have different opinions on what is perfect.

yes i know hegemon but i just made a statement. 🙂

O, ok I got ya 😉
EDIT: BTW they probably say it to motivate you because who doesn't want to be perfect.

k...

I think that if there are no witnesses and we can't prove the kid is guilty, we should only cut his leg to the knee down. Just to make sure an injustice isn't commited...

😆

rofl

I'd never agree to any kind of mutalation (sp) as a punishment. Don't believe in it,

as for a perfect system, NO like Hege said, Perfection is relative and subjective. and if it weren't for the perfect system in Practice we'd need Perfect people. Perfect in theory well personally I think Communism is almost perfect IN THEORY

/\Agreed

its funny around my neighborhood, they let a prisoner out since he's been in the jail for about 20 years. once he came out he killed like 2 people. hmmm what u guyz think. does jail really help?

and yea fire is right. communism is ALMOST perfect.

I don't see how it would, I mean you hold a criminal for a number of years and then let him go hoping he's changed. It doesn't make sense, I guess it must work enough of the time for it to still be in use but it is a huge drain on the economy and I don't think it's worth the cost.

Depends
Prison can help, however in most countries it only makes things worse, you need to give counsil to your criminals -don't just rob them of their freedom- try to find the source of their problem and deal with it. Also make sure that the ones that need Psychiatric help are NOT put in prison but in special Psychiatric facilities.