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Does true Happiness Exist?
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Smallville
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True Happiness

Does it exist? If so, how does one achieve it?


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Fëanor
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to achieve happiness is to know pain...

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NyC-gUrL
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I dont think true happiness exists, there's always gonna be some problems/pain etc. in your life, so you can never be truly happy.


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Fëanor
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happiness is a concept devised to oppose the pain we must all suffer through...

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Exabyte
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quote:
Originally posted by Fëanor
happiness is a concept devised to oppose the pain we must all suffer through...


Yes, and that implies that there is no real happiness because you can only be really happy when there is no pain; but without pain, happiness couldnt exist, it would have nothing to relate to, would be grey standard and not mean anything anymore - it's contrast that defines happiness, and contrast means nothing exists in its pure self.

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silver_tears
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True happiness is an illusion created to keep people striving for it.

I think that's how advertisers market goods, the promise of true happiness lures people to buy the biggest and the best in hopes of achieveing something non'existent. This keeps people working hard for something everyone wants, but can't have.


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Darth Revan
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*sigh* people are so cynical these days...

No, there is never going to be a time in anybody's lives when there is absolutely nothing wrong with their lives. However, that doesn't mean you can't be truly happy. Even if it's just for a short amount of time, doing somthing you enjoy. I've been there a couple times, just a short window of time, maybe a week or so, when I literally had nothing to worry about. Granted, you can't always have that, and I guess if you think that's what true happiness is, you can't ever have it. But personally, I'm grateful for something less than that.


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silver_tears
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Cynicism is not all bad.


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Darth Revan
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I know, I'm cynical too... But I think saying that true happiness doesn't exist is pushing it a little.


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silver_tears
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Define true happiness first yes


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Evy_O
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There is no such thing as "complete happiness", but of course you can be truly happy ... it's a feeling, you feel happy, you exist, therefore it's true blink


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lil bitchiness
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I believe in true happiness, but i dont believe in its lasting.

Only a personcan make themself happy, if you depend on other people to make you happy, you'll be endlessly dissapointed.


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the First Couple stole fruits from every tree they passed
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And outside the Garden, crouched against the Wall
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until their bodies sickened with the excess of it,
and they puked them up
And the Seeds of Fruits were spilled in the dirt,
And from them came Monsters of the World,
Who were borin in filth,
And never knew there was such a thing as Love

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^agree


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Peach
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I agree also. No, there will never be a moment where something's not going wrong, but there can be a moment when a person is truly happy. True happiness will never last, but it can exist. And it's not something you can really define because different things make different people happy.

...and this is coming from me, a rather pessimistic and cynical person no expression


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Fëanor
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quote:
Originally posted by silent_kisses
Cynicism is not all bad.


it is...a good thing

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shaber
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It might exist.


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bigbadbike2
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Happiness is a choice. You choose how you react to circumstances. The choice is built on a sub-conscience level when throughout your life you learn to deal with pain in certain ways. Some people get angry, some depressed, others hide it with a smile and say they are OK. We can choose to reprogram our sub-conscience mind. By saying what we want to believe outloud. By using positive affirmations instead of negatives we slowly reprogram ourselves. For example: If you cut your finger on a knife, instead of saying "I hate knives" instead say " I am glad the cut isn't worse." Remember everything that doesn't kill you will make you stronger if you evaluate the situation correctly.

I hope this is understandable.


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Dragging a knee at 140 on a bike, just takes all the rush out of driving a car at 120. - Sammy Sliger, 2001 (paraphrased)

Money is not everything. As if poverty is.

I've also learned that love cannot be on a one way street... if it does not go both ways it can be a lonely road. Personally I like to just watch the cars go by.... - Happy Kine, 2003

Dare to be different, just like everyone else.

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Ushgarak
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quote:
Originally posted by Exabyte
Yes, and that implies that there is no real happiness because you can only be really happy when there is no pain; but without pain, happiness couldnt exist, it would have nothing to relate to, would be grey standard and not mean anything anymore - it's contrast that defines happiness, and contrast means nothing exists in its pure self.


I find simple dualism very tiresome. An enlightened person can recognise and understand and feel concepts without experiencing the opposite.


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Evy_O
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quote:
Originally posted by LilKitty
I believe in true happiness, but i dont believe in its lasting.

Only a personcan make themself happy, if you depend on other people to make you happy, you'll be endlessly dissapointed.


I agree it's not lasting, without that meaning it doesn't worth it of course.

But I don't think you definitely have to be disappointed, there are people that have never disappointed me and I don't think they ever will, and, in fact, they do make me happy.


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seeing you it kills me now
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Predator 89
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iam in agreement with your statement Evy o. Many people belive in order to have hapiness you need to feel disapointment. But instead if people where never disapointed and had only happiness then we would only feel even more joy. of course that will never happen to anybody in a wold like this, so its basicly impossible to couterrest Feanors point of view, although i can advocate on both sides. You have a good positive view Evy o keep it up.

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