Do people deserve Democracy?

Liberty is the only thing you cannot have unless you are willing to give it to others.
-William Allen White

I have been doing a lot of thinking lately, basically because it is one of the few things i do well. I wondered, is freedom and liberty something people deserve as human beings? Is being denied Democracy wrong? Do the iraqis deserve to have freedom? The true question in my mind was not 'Did the Americans have the right to force democracy on Iraq?' but 'Did the Iraqis deserve democracy enforced on them?'

Questions for debate:

1) Do you think democracy is something people deserve or something that must be earned?
2) Does/did Iraq deserve to have democracy?
3) Whether or not you agreed with the war, Do you think the US has made a valiant effort to bring freedom to iraq?

well let's see

1) depends what kind of democracy you mean "indirect democracy" (like most countries have) or "direct democracy" (the pure democracy meaning everyone has a vote in everything) The first one they deserve, the second one they need to earn
2) Yes Iraq deserves "indirect democracy" which they will now get.
3) depends on what you call freedom

Iraq has never been free... persia has never been free they know nothing of freedom ... monarchs and warlords have ruled thier very existence... everyone deservse a chance at freedom... what they do with it is on them...

direct democracy leads to anarchy and tyranny when implemented on large scale .... indirect is a republic 😄

I know Raven 🙂

😄 just wanted to make it clear to anyone else that it means what we got 😄 i was sure you did to because you knew what a direct and indirect democracy was to begin with 😱

Iran is the only country to have a government ruling under a religion.

technically Italy is influenced greatly by the Pope 😄 in order to have citizen ship i think you have to be Catholic in Mexico and in Italy 😂

To quote Orwell, "the object of oppression is opression..." those who would think to rule over others are psychopathic. The word democracy means "opower to the people." It is a sham if most of the time only a few people are making all the decisions.

awh....you speak of democracy as it is some gift from a higher being. it is not. it is a governing system with PLENTY of flaws. It just suits or way of thinking best. that's why it is dominant so far. but it's safe to assume we will move on, from this system also. just like we did before this one.

so..

1) they don't deserve it nor earn it. it's a good system (better than others), and it will be implemented if it suits the designtated country (not counting in problems like tirant rulers, etc...)

2)this is also a matter of interpretation. I for one, believe that the americans went there for oil (and/or other things..it's just an example. don't take it literally). so the liberation is a pretext, therefore ruling it out of consideration. even if for no oil. they would have gotten the publicity. my point is: i doubt they would have done it if they didn't have some gain of their own.

so..why wouldn't they deserve freedom? they are people just like us. only ruled by a tirant. history and culture is what sepparates us. yes they deserve it. (if one can DESERVE such a thing)

3) see no 2)

Where do you live?

romania

What was that guy called who ruled when Romania was a Soviet Satellite State?

ciausescu

Yeah... one of them had a terrible reputation even by the standards of Soviet Satellite rulers! I think you're right in that case.

I think so.✅

what has ciausescu got to do wiv it?

Any system which doesn't include him must be alot better than one which does.

you can add several other ppl to that list, but sometimes the rule of the one is better than the rule of the many.

hardly

well just to give a few examples the roman empire, which was at its prime a very fine example of good leadership allowed (again at its prime) for quite a few ppl to be the sole ruler until the upcoming crisis was averted