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reincarnation fact or fiction?

in some way's i believe reincarnation exsists. when an animal die's can that spirit alone return but in a diffrent form of life? i.e plant or maybe more.




tell me what you think


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We can't really say if it is a fact or fiction because we do not know if it could happen or not and there is no proof that it could happen.JM


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one thing we do know is that a lot of people belive in it.Their are also a lot of convincing stories documentaries on reincarnation.


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It certainly isn't fact, no religious beliefs are.


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reincarnation is a theory formed by skeptics of how life is formed... that, is my theory..


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it is unknown whether it is either fact or fiction, we will have to wait and see


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Well I certainly don't belive in it....but I'd keep to the agnostic way...and just know we can and will never know.


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Why dont you die and see if reincarnation is real?

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well, maybe we are reincarnated from one form of matter/energy to another..since wer'e matter(which can't be created or destroyed) then maybe our bodies after dying makes a transition from one form of matter to another such as being buried and blending with the soil to become plantlife or being devoured by earthworms and becoming it as well..the possibilites are endless...but not impossible

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There have been several studies involving reincarnation. I remember one particularly convincing documentary which focused largely on children who described memories that were not there own, often of death in a violent or dramatic way. The parents in these cases had been curious enough to investigate the names & places described by their children & found reports of corresponding events. One little girls was flown to another country to meet her 'family' & supposedly identified each person accurately.

Of course, skepticism must remain as this was a documentary & who knows how greatly the tales were doctored. It is certainly an interesting belief & one held by peoples the world over.

My personal opinion though is that it should not be too greatly worried about. Incidences of memory of previous lives are rare, so how much do we gain from knowing whether we are to be reincarnated or not. This may not be Candide's "best of all possible worlds" & we not have reached our potential ultimate form of being, but this is the only world that we ourselves may ever know. Whoever we may become in the future or may have been in the past we should not forget who we are now & we should make the most of it.


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Perhaps you have a choice. Maybe some chose to reincarnate and others do not...Though if a person did, it sure would be nice to remember it..

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Scientificaly reincarnation would be the most feesible answer, espeicaly if you follow Buddhism's version.

Buddhism has a karma wheel. Lets replace spirits with the word neutrons.

There's six neutron energy bases.

Gods. (The highest and most easily burned out living nebula.)
Anti-Gods/Angels?
Humans.
Animals.
Hungery Ghosts/Demons?
Devils.

The gods put out the most energy (Or karma as they put it.) and cannot stay in this divine state forever, eventualy they have to move down the wheel. The lower the wheel, the less karma you require. You can supposedly through good deeds builup your karma pool to live in a higher state of conciounceness.

Now how is this scientificaly founded? Because energy never dies. It simply has lesser and greater phases. Which sounds simaler to the karma wheel.


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Yea that's good though I know nothing about Buddhist...OK..how about this?

God is this huge huge spirit, and He decides to create something new, so he breaks off parts of himself, zillions of parts. All those parts are still part of the Huge spirit. These parts are made up of proton wave particles and make up everyone and everything. Even between the more dense particles are still particles. Some can see the particles and call them spirit, and some can see them and call the bio-engergy or aura. These particles eventually change from one dimensions to another, which is called death of the body, but the particles go back to where they came from. The spirit or particles who's true form is God, or parts of God, then decide on whether they want to return by becoming more dense again to experience more of this property with emotions, and senses. And thus reincarnation with quantum physics.

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hiya, debbiejo i think your theory is really interesting, espec the way it combines spirituality and physics, but dont understand all of it. just wanna ask a coupla qus:
-why is it necessary that the particles are part of some kind of god?
-how do they cross dimensions? is this because they are a part of the god as a whole and he is able to do this?
-how do they decide to comeback/leave/become denser?
-are you saying that by becoming more dense they actually *become* the body? or if not how are they attached to it? how are the aspects of a person contained in these paricles when they are renewed to another body?
-do you hav any scientific basis for this theory or is it just what you reckon? theres nothing wrong with that if there is, am just curious ^_^


also, mr big evil? i find your theory v v interestin cos ive found buddhism says a lot of things which make a lot of sense, and wouldnt be surprised if karma fits in with modern science too. am not sure bout the thing bout requiring less karma as you move down the wheel tho, i think its more you get good karma for good deeds/intentions and vice versa. its a system of cause and effect. however, i may well be wrong. no worries eh?

ta xxx ^_^

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Originally posted by treesonabeach
hiya, debbiejo i think your theory is really interesting, espec the way it combines spirituality and physics, but dont understand all of it. just wanna ask a coupla qus:
-why is it necessary that the particles are part of some kind of god?
-how do they cross dimensions? is this because they are a part of the god as a whole and he is able to do this?
-how do they decide to comeback/leave/become denser?
-are you saying that by becoming more dense they actually *become* the body? or if not how are they attached to it? how are the aspects of a person contained in these paricles when they are renewed to another body?
-do you hav any scientific basis for this theory or is it just what you reckon? theres nothing wrong with that if there is, am just curious ^_^

ta xxx ^_^


Well...no I didn't make it up...I only use 10 percent of my brain. blink

With the reading I've done and it seems to make since to me, is that Life came from a greater form of energy, God or something. For any creation to take place It would have to break off bazillions of parts of It's self. These parts are a "Whole" like your cells are parts of "Your" whole being. These particles are in everything and the denser parts are the parts we can see. The less denser parts are the things we can't see, but are still there. So, another way to look at it is that we are a spirit/energy form that is wearing a body. The body like clothes are not perminate and when it dies, the particles join back to the mass it came from, though not in a way we can probably imagine. Since it is part of the God/Entity, then we are infact part of God, or God parts..It/we then can decide if it would like to come back and experience the senses of taste,tough, sight, smell..emotions...that it/we really can't do in the pure energy state of intellectual knowledge of it...I know it's repeating,but I like it.

It's called quantum wave theory. When the sub particles are broken down, it's found that they act as living individual thinking type entities...They can change shape as a solid, wave or wink in or out of existence...Science want to know when they wink out, where are they going? It's assumed that they are simply in another dimension...unseen. They have found that the invisible force is connective to everything including emotions that can be measured..etc..
It would explain paranormal experiences, esp, psi,...all that and experiments have been done to show that.

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if reincarnation is real, and you remember your past life, wouldnt more people be having visions of a past life and speak up? I only know a small amount of people who have said to have had "visions" of a past life, but I, personaly have had none....but it is a theory i am interested in.


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