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Gregory
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Morality

Raz said this forum was the place for philosophy, so...

Do you belive morality is absolute or relative? That is, do you believe that morality is unchanging, or does it vary according to culture or situation?


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Tricky question, however... I'd say absolute.


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I' m inclined to say relative.


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I believe that morality is absolute. It's always seemed to me that making morality dependant on culture degrades the term; it stops being morality and turns into the cultural norm.


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Yes thumb up


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"Morality is what I say is right, and immorality is what I say is wrong"
^I got this from GTA: Vice City.

On a more serious note, I believe it is absolute, for reasons stated above.


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i think it will be cool if we got to be moral or immoral i know what i choose


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i swear i made a thread like this a months ago.

Or it could me going mad


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Before I started this thread, I did a search for relative morality and didn't turn anything up. You're probably going crazy.


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care to gimme an example of what you mean by morality greg?


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An example? Well ...

In America, it is considered wrong to kill someone, at least without provocation. In certain tribes of the Amazon, it's not considered wrong to kill someone unless he is part of your tribe. The question beins asked, tailored to this example, is: Is one of these conflicting values ("killing strangers is wrong" vs. "killing strangers is not wrong") objectively correct, and the other objectively wrong? Or are they both equally valid?


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In theory, morality should be, at its base, absolute and never relative.
But morality is based on universal principles.
Some view abortion as morally acceptable while others see it as murder.


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I agree. Morality should just stay morality. Ya know?! Let it be.


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I think it's relative erm


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Relative to culture? What happens when the culture doesn't come to a consensus on whether something is moral?


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Gregory what you are doing there is being an external observant. To be apart of the culture is to understand the actions, behavior, and values of the culture. Think of it as an Anthropologist, when studying a certain culture one must be connected within the culture to understand. Therefore your own ethical standards would be different than that of the culture you are viewing. Adoptation is always helpful to a learning process of another culture.


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Lao-Tzu vs Confucius.

Lao-Tzu= Be the way you are

Confucius= Never think of evil and be good.

ill discuss more on this later i g2g soon


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quote:
Originally posted by Storm
In theory, morality should be, at its base, absolute and never relative.
But morality is based on universal principles.
Some view abortion as morally acceptable while others see it as murder.


Which I suppose then means that Morality is relatively absolute confused
as in it is absolute, relative to the personal beliefs of the people/culture in question.


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I'd say morality is relative to the culture you're raised in, because from that specific culture is where your morality originated, and grew from. While like you guys stated what they consider to be moral is completely different to yours


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