Lack of Senses

Started by xmarksthespot3 pages

Lack of Senses

Someone who is completely blind has no awareness of light?
Someone who is completely deaf has no awareness of sound?

So I'm wondering if someone was born with no sense of smell, taste, vision, hearing, balance and none of the four components of touch (pain, temperature, touch and proprioception) then would they even have a consciousness?

Yes, because they would still be able to think.

but think of what, we develop though experience, and we gain experience from our senses, blind people have a hard time , but they can hear, and they can feel, they can tell pain is bad, someone lacking in seances couldn't do that kind of thing, so they would not develop past the mental age of a baby

Sure they would..except for sight, even if it was restored, because the brain has no references....But as for the others look at Helen Keller..

If they had non of these things...They would just live in their own little world, I guess.....

What about all of the senses we do not have. We can not see x-ray. We can not hear ultra sound. We can not feel the surface of an atom. There are many more things we have no sense for, then for what we do have. Do we have a consciousness? In a very limited why, we do, and in that same way, so does a bacteria.

Re: Lack of Senses

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Someone who is completely blind has no awareness of light?
Someone who is completely deaf has no awareness of sound?

So I'm wondering if someone was born with no sense of smell, taste, vision, hearing, balance and none of the four components of touch (pain, temperature, touch and proprioception) then would they even have a consciousness?

I think they would. It would be interesting though. If a person as you describe were born...that might allow us to become aware of other senses we don't know exist.

Well if they did have any other senses it would be difficult if not impossible for them to convey information about the senses to us since they'd likely be incapable of communication.

That person will be living in a world with absosutely no sensation, really claustrophobic, but a interesting experience. Her world will be her dreams I guess but without images, or sounds since she never experienced them. She still have her intuition, and well developed I think since she doesn´t have other senses.

Science is made of e information acquired from senses, without that information there will be no science. But how do we know that "information from senses create science" ?

We must use our intuition to acquire that information, and that way "give sense" to empirism. If you say that intuition is not a valid way of acquiring information, and judging truth or falsity, then you cannot give any sense to empirism.

Especially if you think of the brain as more a receptor of our intuition or what's around us instead of the originator...this kind of person might even perceive things we all cannot at all....Maybe to the point of something many people try to connect with.....Interesting.

if a child like that were born, he/she would be nothing like us. He/she would be in another plain of existense. i suppose the child would just be a living and breathing soul (thus proving the existance of the soul), since all of its thoughts and actions would be on an internal level. and perhaps this child could be the link we need to another realm, and that would be the realm that exists inside us all that none of us can see or live in. if a child like that were born it would be a true breakthrough.

the problem with some of your examples is that you make references to people who lack one or two senses (like helen keller), but they have senses. if something were to be born with a complete lack of senses (as in no senses whatsoever) there is no possible way it can be alive...

which is why the existance of such a child would open up so many unthought of doors, because it is impossible for such a child to be born. The idea of this child is a parable.

If it is our brain that creates our consciousness then that person will be alive, he will just not have senses, but a working brain. If our brain just connect our consciouness to our body, then that person will still have consciousness, but no interaction with the physical world. Like in another plane of existence.

But the human in question would still have intuition, instincts, and imagination. He would be conscious, although he would live in his own world, of his own mind.

He would also be able to make decisions.

your brain is considered conscious when it's aware or stimulated. stimulation and awareness comes from your senses. our senses are how we gather everything we know. to not have them would be to not know anything, to not exist mentally, and not existing mentally means that they are unconscious.

but we will never know. if a child like this was born we would have no possible way of communication

But the human in question would still have intuition, instincts, and imagination. He would be conscious, although he would live in his own world, of his own mind.
He would also be able to make decisions.

they would have nothing to imagine or make decisions about. they couldn't because they aren't aware of any existance they wouldn't even be aware of their own existance

The brain has distinct processes for everything, not all activity from brain comes from the senses. Visual, auditive cortex, or any parts related to the senses will not need to work, but cognitive, motor parts will work. A blind person can think, a deaf person too, people in comatose too, some are even aware of what is happening around them.

Comatose people still have sense faculties, however they are unconscious. This person would have none to reference with whatsoever. What can you imagine if you've never seen, heard, tasted, smelt or felt? What decisions can you possibly make?

The brain is only an organ that can stimulate some senses...The mind on the other hand is outside the brain...and the brain is a receiver of it...and with the mind comes other senses you can access.

Re: Lack of Senses

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Someone who is completely blind has no awareness of light?
Someone who is completely deaf has no awareness of sound?

So I'm wondering if someone was born with no sense of smell, taste, vision, hearing, balance and none of the four components of touch (pain, temperature, touch and proprioception) then would they even have a consciousness?

while you seem to think of it as not being able to use any paths of getting knowledge, i tend to think of that as not having any of the limitations all humans are born with.

So our consciouness would be based on our senses, like if we depended on what we are aware of to exist. That could be, I don´t know. But maybe being aware of doesn´t mean only hearing, seeing, tasting, smelling or feeling.