The Idea of A Global Goverment...

Does anyone think this is possible? Or does our very nature as humans defeat this idea?

It would never work. Religious nuts would over throw it.

Originally posted by Aziz!
It would never work. Religious nuts would over throw it.

I'd be more inclined to say that crazy Texas Rednecks and Bush fanatic types would freak at the idea.

IMO, We're technically taking our first steps into a global government. The UN is a pretty good step this far, the only problem is that it has no ruling government. If all world leaders were somehow converted into representatives of their country/countries and wrote a world constitution then we'd perhaps might have a government body closely resembling a republic of some sort.

If we somehow achieve this the only problem would be getting a president or prime minister of some sort to do the leading.

Christian fundamentalists would say it's proof of the end times.

I wouldn't mind an EU style approach, where the nations are very close but are still separate. I don't think rouge nations should be let in though.

Originally posted by Jonathan Mark
Does anyone think this is possible? Or does our very nature as humans defeat this idea?

Take a look at America- many other cultures around the world learn its major language (English), adopt many of its customs (Clothing, material commodities, media, etc.), and generally its influence is all-pervasive. This is a glimpse into the future.

Here's the truly scary part though- it's clear that a global government will be needed, whether it's some extension of the UN or something radically different. The real crux is... what will it be? And what major opponent will keep it in check and present it with challenge and obstacles?

Originally posted by Jonathan Mark
Does anyone think this is possible? Or does our very nature as humans defeat this idea?

I have already begun the process....

😈 Join me, and together we'll rule this galaxy together!!!

I believe too many would fight against losing their autonomy.

I think many people would die before the entire globe becomes unified under one government. The countries that do not have a separation of their religion from their state will more than likely resist and spark several civil wars before any type of global government becomes permanent.

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
I think many people would die before the entire globe becomes unified under one government. The countries that do not have a separation of their religion from their state will more than likely resist and spark several civil wars before any type of global government becomes permanent.

Empires did not form by negotiating with an enemy. A Global government has one leader and one leader alone. It can not be run in any other form. To rule one must conqure, there is not other way...

Great Man Theory? Interesting...

Things always move towards simplicity. The world will eventually be under one rule, it will have to be, because one united rule is the only way we will have peace. Simple systems have always proven the most stable, government is no exception.

The simplest governments include one man who calls all the shots.

Erm...

None of those lasted.

In a complex government, such as the Roman Republic, or the United States of America, they seem to have endured for hundreds of years rather easily compared to simpler governments.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
The simplest governments include one man who calls all the shots.

Erm...

None of those lasted.

In a complex government, such as the Roman Republic, or the United States of America, they seem to have endured for hundreds of years rather easily compared to simpler governments.

Well thats not really what I meant. I meant that if the world contains only one government, it is a much simpler system that would undeniably be more peaceful than the current system(multiple governments) we have right now correct?

I wasnt getting into the dynamics of individual government structure because then it gets more complicated. So many factors....I do think a dictatorship has the *potential* to be the greatest system of government, but that one man in charge would have to be a man of strong morality. And looking at reality, people in power tend to be corrupt and greedy.

The dictatorship offers the most abuses, as evidenced in history.

But anyways, a global government risks stagnation and civil war or unrest unless it has a cause or enemy to unite against. That's how humans are. That's why the United States grew complacent and stagnate after the Cold War, and is only now united against what? Terrorism. The nation needs something to rally for or against, or else it has lost its purpose. And no, peace is not a cause people will unify for in the longterm.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
The dictatorship offers the most abuses, as evidenced in history.

But anyways, a global government risks stagnation and civil war or unrest unless it has a cause or enemy to unite against. That's how humans are. That's why the United States grew complacent and stagnate after the Cold War, and is only now united against what? Terrorism. The nation needs something to rally for or against, or else it has lost its purpose. And no, peace is not a cause people will unify for in the longterm.

Well yeah I suppose were such idiots, that when we finnaly reach peace with a global government we will still destroy ourselves anyway because that world would be too beautiful for man to accept.

Agent Smith put it best...humanity is a virus.

I don't know if I share those sentiments (I certainly hate that The Matrix has formed modern philosophy in this generation and not something relevant, like Hume's works or even Kant's Critiques...) but certainly there is a correlation with higher intelligence and malicious, destructive behavior.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
I don't know if I share those sentiments (I certainly hate that The Matrix has formed modern philosophy in this generation and not something relevant, like Hume's works or even Kant's Critiques...) but certainly there is a correlation with higher intelligence and malicious, destructive behavior.

I imagine that even higher intelligence than ourselves would be peaceful. We are kind of in the inbetween.... we are smart but not yet smart. The point of ultimate idiocy.

I would assume that after decades of war, our world would eventually become unified under one government. But what kind of government? And what kind of people? Depending on whether or not our technology continues to advance, and our study on DNA/Genetics survives through several wars, could our world change into a conditioned world? Brave New World anyone? It's a pretty likely scenario considering how many times that we have already cloned things. And as far as the government goes, I guess it would really depend on how well the people are controlled. Or should I say conditioned?