Has Humanity become God?

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Have we become too powerful for our own good?

Has Humanity become God?

These days we have everything we have ever wanted (and more than we could ever need) to both live and survive. We have the answers for everything in scientific terms and mathematical numbers and we have been able to solve and nearly control so much and nearly all of what we once considered to be 'the mysteries of the universe' -or we soon will be.

This path l think is very dangerous because of not only how much power we have now over everything- we can clone people, genetically alter creatures, travel in space, build or destroy anything we want, possess weapons that could destroy the planet... -but also how fast we are acquiring it.

I beleive this is going to become the death of not only humanity but the destruction of the good values and morals that we try to hold onto now unless we can do something to change our entire base of society fast.

---So what are your thoughts on our 'progress'???
---What do you think will become of us and how do you think we will be able to, if we are able to, solve this problem???

Yes I agree with you, definately...

Cmon people

Re: Has Humanity become God?

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
These days we have [B]everything we have ever wanted (and more than we could ever need)

Precisely, and yet mankind is still very miserable. Because all this means nothing. Apparently no amount of matireal wealth or mortal pleasure can make one happy. Happyness has to come from the inside. So infact man is nowhere near God. God despite being omnipetant, is grateful. Where as we are not.

We have the answers for everything in scientific terms

No we don't. We can't even prove if global warming is real or not. (Which I believe it is.) You get differant "facts" from differant scientists. Just baseless, shallow, drivvle.

This path l think is very dangerous because of not only how much power we have now over everything- we can clone people, genetically alter creatures, travel in space, build or destroy anything we want, possess weapons that could destroy the planet... -but also how fast we are acquiring it.

Oh ceartainly, more power just creates more chaos and depravity.

I beleive this is going to become the death of not only humanity but the destruction of the good values and morals that we try to hold onto now unless we can do something to change our entire base of society fast.

Won't happen. Society is wholly surrender-monkies who givein to the pleasures of the flesh. The only surefire way to survive and carryon our values is to wait for an oppurtunity to exterminate the masses. I look foward to world war three, Einstien was right about it all. There's a reason we'll be fighting world war four with sticks and stones.

---So what are your thoughts on our 'progress'???

Depends, if progress is measured by our technological advancement. Then yeah, I'd say you've progressed quite impressively. But does progress equal success? Happyness is like trying to reach a world record, and though you can make progress and get better, if you never reach that world record you won't have success. Unlike this example, technology can never eventualy leadus to success. Only new pleateus.
---What do you think will become of us and how do you think we will be able to, if we are able to, solve this problem???

I think alot of good men and bad men alike will die and suffer tremendously. As has always been the case when injustice is implanted into human-kind. My answer? Wait.. plan.. and never negotiate. Neogitations are for people already defeated and seeking some kindof mercy. And we got nowhere to go but up.

Re: Re: Has Humanity become God?

Originally posted by Green Arrow
Precisely, and yet mankind is still very miserable. Because all this means nothing. Apparently no amount of matireal wealth or mortal pleasure can make one happy. Happyness has to come from the inside. So infact man is nowhere near God. God despite being omnipetant, is grateful. Where as we are not.

Contradiction:

1) Happiness must come from the Inside

2) So infact man is no where near God

What does "God" have to do with happiness ? "God" has been responsible for much destruction....

- Salem Witch Trials
- Crusades
- Inquisition
- Native American genocide
- Anti Gay rights movement
- DEath of First born sons of Egypt (Moses times)
- Destruction of cities Sodom and Gomorrha (Biblical myth)
- The Great Flood (which killed 99.9% of humanity)

Originally posted by Green Arrow
No we don't. We can't even prove if global warming is real or not. (Which I believe it is.) You get differant "facts" from differant scientists. Just baseless, shallow, drivvle.

Oh Boy 🙄

More conservative propaganda bullshit....Global Warming and its effects have already occured and have been proven. This whole , "Let us destroy our environment with factories, make more money, chop down more trees, kill more animals, dig more oil, and hope God takes care of the rest" mentality is the nightmare that is destroying our world.

The Rise in rates of Hurricanes is not enough evidense for you? The Green House effect, the shorter winters, the polar caps melting, the rise in skin cancer....

Not enough evidense for you?

You fkn moron......

Originally posted by Green Arrow
Oh ceartainly, more power just creates more chaos and depravity.

Then Christians should keep thier noses out of politics...glad we agree 😉

Originally posted by Green Arrow
Won't happen. Society is wholly surrender-monkies who givein to the pleasures of the flesh. The only surefire way to survive and carryon our values is to wait for an oppurtunity to exterminate the masses. I look foward to world war three, Einstien was right about it all. There's a reason we'll be fighting world war four with sticks and stones.

Can come say, PSYCHO........ ?

Originally posted by Green Arrow
Depends, if progress is measured by our technological advancement. Then yeah, I'd say you've progressed quite impressively. But does progress equal success? Happyness is like trying to reach a world record, and though you can make progress and get better, if you never reach that world record you won't have success. Unlike this example, technology can never eventualy leadus to success. Only new pleateus.

Scientific Technology has lead to cures in many diseases and wondorful developments in terms of healing ailments that were once life threatening. Computers make things that was once impossible, possible....

Vaccines...the diseases that your God refused to treat have been treated through science.

Science > Religion

Originally posted by Green Arrow
I think alot of good men and bad men alike will die and suffer tremendously. As has always been the case when injustice is implanted into human-kind. My answer? Wait.. plan.. and never negotiate. Neogitations are for people already defeated and seeking some kindof mercy. And we got nowhere to go but up.

yawn

More meaningless advice ?

no we dont have too much power b/c we dont even know yet, exactly how we were started.... a great philospher once said "if you dont remember the past, you might as well forget the future."
does this mean the human race as a whole is doomed?

FYI all ppl -I used god strictly as a metaphor for 'total power'

Originally posted by Green Arrow

No we don't. We can't even prove if global warming is real or not. (Which I believe it is.) You get differant "facts" from differant scientists. Just baseless, shallow, drivvle.

Won't happen. Society is wholly surrender-monkies who givein to the pleasures of the flesh. The only surefire way to survive and carryon our values is to wait for an oppurtunity to exterminate the masses. I look foward to world war three, Einstien was right about it all. There's a reason we'll be fighting world war four with sticks and stones.


1) yes we dont know everything for certain, but we still label things as 'known' to us, even if not totally proven -and we disregard what is and isnt fact all the time. EX: If we have a 5% change that we can make genetically altered cows, we will, even if we know it probably wont work -just to say we tried. Someday it will be altered people...and so on...

It is abuse of power we dont understand...

2) WWIII will yes, likely be able to show us something of what we are, but in the end -we'll end up doing the same damn mistakes over and over again... Arrows, guns, nukes...arrows, guns, nukes...

Is there any less apoclolaptic solution? Hmm... too ambitious for us. We can spends years researching on how to destroy the world but we cant spend a minute to find a serious solution to keep it from occuring.

Originally posted by KILLA420
no we dont have too much power b/c we dont even know yet, exactly how we were started.... a great philospher once said "if you dont remember the past, you might as well forget the future."
does this mean the human race as a whole is doomed?
Im thinking it doesnt really matter how we started -we'll know how it ended for sure... Someday soon we might know the answer to that too anyways.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Im thinking it doesnt really matter how we started -we'll know how it ended for sure... Someday soon we might know the answer to that too anyways.

It will not be any time soon.

no. I'm writing a psychology essay atm the moment so no time to back up my points. But No.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It will not be any time soon.

Hmm, so it doesnt matter because it is likely to be a long ways off...what are we waiting for- the apocalypse? This isn't just a nuclear, physical warfare -it is the very way we live today and the degraded thought/moral code that is the problem... We wont see mushroom clouds because of it for a while -hopefully, but we are still living up to it.

Post by Lord Urizen: "Scientific Technology has lead to cures in many diseases and wondorful developments in terms of healing ailments that were once life threatening. Computers make things that was once impossible, possible....
Vaccines...the diseases that your God refused to treat have been treated through science...."

Paradoxically, it is the very super power like this that is the problem. Alright we can treat diseases and so forth, but what is medicine today in pop culture -the extreme simplification and prolonging of life. (yes medicine is good and saves people) But its it the general concept of how we cannot accept what we have that is bad. We can cure mostly everything these days, but now we are trying to make us live to be 150 (not bs) and made medical technology for abortions, and the kind of things that our culture "needs". What would happen if everybody lived to 150? Population>UP(like...china), Food/space> DOwn... Government goes crazy- forced to make laws against population and radical crap. people get mad, anarchy/chaos ensues and pretty soon we are all basically...screwed. The end of the world dont have to be with bombs..

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Hmm, so it doesnt matter because it is likely to be a long ways off...what are we waiting for- the apocalypse? This isn't just a nuclear, physical warfare -it is the very way we live today and the degraded thought/moral code that is the problem... We wont see mushroom clouds because of it for a while -hopefully, but we are still living up to it.

Post by Lord Urizen: "Scientific Technology has lead to cures in many diseases and wondorful developments in terms of healing ailments that were once life threatening. Computers make things that was once impossible, possible....
Vaccines...the diseases that your God refused to treat have been treated through science...."

Paradoxically, it is the very super power like this that is the problem. Alright we can treat diseases and so forth, but what is medicine today in pop culture -the extreme simplification and prolonging of life. (yes medicine is good and saves people) But its it the general concept of how we cannot accept what we have that is bad. We can cure mostly everything these days, but now we are trying to make us live to be 150 (not bs) and made medical technology for abortions, and the kind of things that our culture "needs". What would happen if everybody lived to 150? Population>UP(like...china), Food/space> DOwn... Government goes crazy- forced to make laws against population and radical crap. people get mad, anarchy/chaos ensues and pretty soon we are all basically...screwed. The end of the world dont have to be with bombs..

If we survive has always been the question. If we had an all out nuclear war, there is a good chance that most people on the Earth would die within the first few years, but there might be enough people who survive. It will though us back into the stone age, but we might survive.

Technology is evolving and people should try to evolve together with it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If we survive has always been the question. If we had an all out nuclear war, there is a good chance that most people on the Earth would die within the first few years, but there might be enough people who survive. It will though us back into the stone age, but we might survive.

If it comes to an all-out nuclear war...I would hope no one survives -because we'll just get back up and in a thousand years do it all over again. (And on a scale that large, the combined effects of nuclear winter and super-screwed up ozone would more or less kill everything on the planet. But that is besides the point)

As I said before though, this isn't just about survival, it is about how we think and act, and how it effects us now, and not just in the future.

Originally posted by Atlantis001
Technology is evolving and people should try to evolve together with it.

Alright, so lets evolve with technology -thats the classic story of science fiction where machine turns against man. And in the real world its not AI matrix wars, its fundamental societal development...We become to dependent on technology that when we lost it, everybody falls.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Im thinking it doesnt really matter how we started -we'll know how it ended for sure... Someday soon we might know the answer to that too anyways.

well, buddy, you may be right , but i still think the past is necessary information in order to complete the cycle that we call life

Originally posted by KILLA420
well, buddy, you may be right , but i still think the past is necessary information in order to complete the cycle that we call life

I still dont understand exactly what you are saying though. Because we dont know enough about how we started that we dont have to make ourselves better now? I dont get it? If anything that would be more reason to change what we can in hopes of a better tomorrow. See what Im saying?

no i'm saying that we can never be 'too powerful' until we at least figure out our 'roots'

WE have not become God...

We are not even close.....

Originally posted by KILLA420
no i'm saying that we can never be 'too powerful' until we at least figure out our 'roots'

Ok, so we arent certain we come from monkeys or not... we can still blow up the world and mess around with a million things we shouldnt that could lead us, and are leading us, to very bad places.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
WE have not become God...
We are not even close.....

God is metaphorical as i already said, but yes we are a lot closer to the point of too much power than we think. We can make life, prolong life, destroy it all, build and synthesize quite a lot. Ok so we cant fly to other galaxies but we still have A hell of a lot more power than we realize.

Re: Has Humanity become God?

Originally posted by The Black Ghost

I beleive this is going to become the death of not only humanity but the destruction of the good values and morals that we try to hold onto now unless we can do something to [B]change our entire base of society
fast.

---So what are your thoughts on our 'progress'???
---What do you think will become of us and how do you think we will be able to, if we are able to, solve this problem??? [/B]

We should ALL responsible for our own thoughts which leads to our actions. I Think the tech. world is great. But one has to remember that it is WE that determines how we want to use it on an individual level....And how we interact with the world and others........WE are responsible. If we don't like something then it is WE that will or should not participate in it. In doing this tech or non tech will die out.......It's consumer based. Same with all things........It's not someone elses world, it's ours..........

Re: Re: Has Humanity become God?

Originally posted by debbiejo
We should ALL responsible for our own thoughts which leads to our actions. I Think the tech. world is great. But one has to remember that it is WE that determines how we want to use it on an individual level....And how we interact with the world and others........WE are responsible. If we don't like something then it is WE that will or should not participate in it. In doing this tech or non tech will die out.......It's consumer based. Same with all things........It's not someone elses world, it's ours..........

Which is exactly why we can and should act.

Man of us do......... 😎