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your favourite pieces of philosophy?

My favourite is "If a lion could talk, we could not understand him" Ludwig Wittgenstein. What are your favourites?


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"I think, therfore I am"

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Originally posted by pcp
"I think, therfore I am"
Cogito ergo sum


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or the full: Dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum = I doubt, therefore I think, therefore I am. Descartes 1596-1650


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Originally posted by Strangelove
Cogito ergo sum

The original statement was in French: "Je pense, donc je suis."


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The original statement was in French: "Je pense, donc je suis."
No, it was first published in Latin, French wasn't until 6 years later


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"Le discours de la méthode pour bien conduire sa raison, et chercher la verité dans les sciences" was originally published in French, and later translated into Latin. You can check any source on that.

If I write in French, the language of my country, rather than in Latin, the language of my teachers, the reason is that I hope those who use only their natural reason, pure and simple, will judge my opinions better that those who believe nothing but ancient books. And as for those who combine good sense with study, who are the only ones I hope to have as my judges, I am confident that they will not be so partial to Latin that they will refuse to listen to my reasons because I explain them in the common language.
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"Le discours de la méthode pour bien conduire sa raison, et chercher la verité dans les sciences" was originally published in French, and later translated into Latin. You can check any source on that.

If I write in French, the language of my country, rather than in Latin, the language of my teachers, the reason is that I hope those who use only their natural reason, pure and simple, will judge my opinions better that those who believe nothing but ancient books. And as for those who combine good sense with study, who are the only ones I hope to have as my judges, I am confident that they will not be so partial to Latin that they will refuse to listen to my reasons because I explain them in the common language.
- Descartes -
Wait. We're not talking about the same book. I'm talking about Meditations on First Philosophy, where the famous idiom "Cogito Ergo Sum" actually came from.

Discourse on the Method of Rightly Conducting the Reason, and Seeking Truth in the Sciences may well have been originally published in French, but it's still the wrong book.


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The Meditations (first published in Latin in 1641) consist of the presentation of Descartes' metaphysical system in its most detailed level and in the expanding of Descartes' philosophical system, which he first introduced in the fourth part of his Discourse on Method (first published in French in 1637).


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The Meditations (first published in Latin in 1641) consist of the presentation of Descartes' metaphysical system in its most detailed level and in the expanding of Descartes' philosophical system, which he first introduced in the fourth part of his Discourse on Method (first published in French in 1637).
Ah. Well then we're...both right?

It's just semantics at that point, really stick out tongue


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Originally posted by Strangelove
Ah. Well then we're...both right?

It's just semantics at that point, really stick out tongue


Not really, she is just right.


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Not really, she is just right.
Well. I was speaking specifically of Meditation on First Philosophy. Which was first published in Latin. She was talking about the Discourse on Method, which was first published in French.

And my point was that the famous idiom, "I think therefore I am", was first published in Latin, in the Meditations. Storm correctly said that the Meditations was an expansion on the Discourse on Method. However, "I think therefore I am" was not included in the Discourse.

So really, I guess you could say I'm right


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Well. I was speaking specifically of Meditation on First Philosophy. Which was first published in Latin. She was talking about the Discourse on Method, which was first published in French.

And my point was that the famous idiom, "I think therefore I am", was first published in Latin, in the Meditations. Storm correctly said that the Meditations was an expansion on the Discourse on Method. However, "I think therefore I am" was not included in the Discourse.

So really, I guess you could say I'm right


Just...that you are not.

Since it was first published in French. In the Discourse....so...really, you are just wrong. But doesn't matter, can happen to anyone...like it just happened to you.


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