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Who's Life is My Life?

Who's Life is My Life?

Do you think your life belong to you or...?
Who's life is my life?
To understand this apparent paradox we need a broader perspective. The fact of the matter is that today, as the seven-continent wide Show Live Earth so beautifully demonstrated, we are all interdependent. To save our own lives, and the lives our children we need to co-operate. However, we will not want to co-operate unless we know what for. We need to understand the reason we exist, the meaning of our lives, and from that derive motivation for positive global action.

Agree, disagree?

Thanks.

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There is not meaning to life, and you do not own anything even yourself. When you die, they will do what they want with your body and things.


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Who's Life is My Life?

It only belongs to you, and no one else. People must learn to be true to themselves at the most highest degree of good. Call it selfishness, it's not a terrible word. We all are anyway, and to be otherwise would make us someone else's slave.

Who's life is it? Yours, and do the best with it you can with what time you have here. It will slip away quickly before you know it.

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co-operation helps a selfish individual

the idea that being a selfish independent person puts you at immediate odds with anyone is ridiculous


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Originally posted by svetlu
Who's Life is My Life?

Do you think your life belong to you or...?
Who's life is my life?
To understand this apparent paradox we need a broader perspective. The fact of the matter is that today, as the seven-continent wide Show Live Earth so beautifully demonstrated, we are all interdependent. To save our own lives, and the lives our children we need to co-operate. However, we will not want to co-operate unless we know what for. We need to understand the reason we exist, the meaning of our lives, and from that derive motivation for positive global action.

Agree, disagree?

Thanks.


no 1. it belongs to you. unless you truly love sum1 else. in which case, it belongs to the one you love.

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no 1. it belongs to you. unless you truly love sum1 else. in which case, it belongs to the one you love.


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Originally posted by svetlu
Who's Life is My Life?

Do you think your life belong to you or...?
Who's life is my life?
To understand this apparent paradox we need a broader perspective. The fact of the matter is that today, as the seven-continent wide Show Live Earth so beautifully demonstrated, we are all interdependent. To save our own lives, and the lives our children we need to co-operate. However, we will not want to co-operate unless we know what for. We need to understand the reason we exist, the meaning of our lives, and from that derive motivation for positive global action.

Agree, disagree?

Thanks.


You mean "whose".

Also, it's yours (imo/leaving out more philosophical concepts and approaches). Your life is factually yours to do with. To quote Doug Stanhope "You are born absolutely free except for laws of nature".

How you want to use it and for what reasons you can figure out yourself.


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Shouldn't this be merged?


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Let me give you just example: All people are like all cells in our body interdependent. Every cell needs to do her special job to keep whole body alive and healthy. If something wrong happened even with one cell (for example coming cancer's cell) whole body going to die.
(Cancer cell is egoistical cell - wants to get only for itself).

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Your life is your own. You are the only one experiencing your experiences. No one has the right to control, torment, or destroy it.


However, likewise, another's life is not yours to control. It is not yours to torment, or destroy.


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"Its my life!"...etc..etc...


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Originally posted by inimalist
co-operation helps a selfish individual

the idea that being a selfish independent person puts you at immediate odds with anyone is ridiculous


Youi have a different definition of selfish, that sounds like pragmatic to me.

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Who's Life is My Life?

Do you think your life belong to you or...?
Who's life is my life?
To understand this apparent paradox we need a broader perspective. The fact of the matter is that today, as the seven-continent wide Show Live Earth so beautifully demonstrated, we are all interdependent. To save our own lives, and the lives our children we need to co-operate. However, we will not want to co-operate unless we know what for. We need to understand the reason we exist, the meaning of our lives, and from that derive motivation for positive global action.

Agree, disagree?

Thanks.


Agree. Its entirely possible, but hightly inprobable. That doesnt mean it couldnt happen though. Finding the "reason we exist" is not the question, it is instead, finding the "reason to value our existance".

Speech is a powerful tool, but there isnt very much of it today in Western culture to keep us together. What you hear from political candidates does not address the people directly, it usually only addressed the person themselves and what they beleive.

In the Iraq conflict, I would think that some nation-wide, motivating speeches directed at the enemy themselves, why they are wrong, would work as well as ten thousand soldiers. We all think the same, fundamentally, at some level. If we could work to understand we are all the same as human beings, with equal value, we could solve so much.


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Who's Life is My Life?

Do you think your life belong to you or...?
Who's life is my life?
To understand this apparent paradox we need a broader perspective. The fact of the matter is that today, as the seven-continent wide Show Live Earth so beautifully demonstrated, we are all interdependent. To save our own lives, and the lives our children we need to co-operate. However, we will not want to co-operate unless we know what for. We need to understand the reason we exist, the meaning of our lives, and from that derive motivation for positive global action.

Agree, disagree?

Thanks.
Agree, we need to start cooperating, unless we do, this planet's life is going to go Holocaust, and we'll be foremost into the camps.

Disagree, we WON"T start cooperating, because it must be a global cooperation. As long as soft-minded Western powers continue to cave to the likes of expanding and environmentally-unfriendly China and India etc., and fail to fix their own problems at the least, we as humans will continue our floundering descent towards destruction.



----Preached the dustspeck.


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Merge


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Try to read whole article, please. Michael Laitman wrote: Millions of people are starving in Third World countries, and billions others don’t have enough to eat or even clean drinking water. Their lives are so much harder than Westerners’ lives that it’s a wonder that they even endure.

In the West, people don’t suffer from such problems: they are generally healthy, generally wealthy, and their futures are (generally) secured. But Westerners have their own problems, the first of which is depression. Despite the high standard of living, depression is fastest spreading illness in the West.

According to an official brochure by the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH): “Depressive disorders make one feel exhausted, worthless, helpless, and hopeless. Such negative thoughts and feelings make some people feel like giving up." Indeed, the startling suicide rates all over the Western world prove that more and more people are giving up, although they seemingly have everything.

If we compared the lives of Westerners to the lives of those living in Third World countries, we’d expect the contrary: that those in the West would try to make the most out of the opportunities they have, and that those in poorer countries would be in despair. Isn’t it strange that once we have everything, we throw it all away, including our lives?

Who’s Life is My Life?
To understand this apparent paradox, we need a broader perspective. The fact of the matter is that today, as the seven-continent-wide show Live Earth so beautifully demonstrated, we are all interdependent. To save our own lives, and the lives of our children we need to co-operate. However, we will not want to co-operate unless we know what for. We need to understand the reason we exist, the meaning of our lives, and from that derive motivation for positive global action.

According to the wisdom of Kabbalah, our interdependency stems from the “oneness" concept, from the fact that we are not only interdependent, but are all one entity. Our faces may seem different, but underneath our skins, we are quite similar. If we hadn’t been similar, modern medicine would not be possible. The deeper you dive into matter, the more similar the elements become. Thus, if you analyze the particles that make up each atom, you’ll find only two basic elements -- the nucleus and the electrons surrounding it. The most basic building blocks of life, all of life, are the same. And they are not only the same, but materials constantly exchange elements, electrons, which brings contemporary physicists to state that at the most fundamental level of nature, we are all literally one. If we comprehend that, we will see that understanding the meaning of our lives, as well as achieving well-being, is not so much a question of what I do for me, but more of how I interact with the whole world and for all of humanity.

The Meaning of Life
The oneness concept was first discovered by ancient Kabbalists some 5,000 years ago, but is today a proven scientific fact. This concept tells us that life’s purpose is not a personal thing, it is a comprehensive, “panoramic" perception of all that exists. According to the wisdom of Kabbalah, only when we transcend our selves, our egos, do we achieve life’s meaning, since only then do we see the “big picture," that is, our own place in the comprehensive picture of creation. It is only then that we understand why we are born and what we need to do in this life.

To understand the meaning of life, we need to achieve such a sensation of the universe that there will be no difference between life and death, and existence as physical entities or spiritual entities. If we could freely live in all dimensions, earthly and spiritual, and not just in our present perception, we would know that we truly are eternal.

In such a state of mind, one’s own life becomes as meaningful as another’s. There can be no animosity among people because all people are one. Rivalry would be tantamount to a kidney trying to dominate the liver. In such a state of existence, each person becomes Godlike, fully responsible for the whole of reality, and fully aware of everything that is happening within it, at any place and at any time.

Indeed, Kabbalah states that life’s meaning lies in its purpose -- to make all creations be like God -- eternal, omnipotent, and omniscient. Kabbalists call it "equivalence of form." This is the real Live Earth show.
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Michael Laitman, M.D., Ph.D. is the founder of the Bnei Baruch World Center for Kabbalah Studies that is dedicated to making the wisdom of Kabbalah widely available for free. The site features authentic Kabbalah content in over 20 languages, free downloads of Laitman's e-books and 1000s of Kabbalah lessons. Michael Laitman is a student of Baruch Ashlag, disciple of Yehuda Ashlag, author of the authoritative Sulam commentary of The Zohar.

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And it's being mindful of balancing every aspect of the Tree of Life, which is your spiritual Life, which we are..ie spirit in a physical body. If one becomes out of balance in an area it becomes evident in how you react or over react to your Life. Everything on that tree has Polarity. If one is over dominate in a masculine energy form then the effects could come out as close minded, rigid, and structured, always doing but not necessarily achieving their desires and goals, and not having much fun in the process. On the other hand if ones feminine aspect is over dominate it could come out as gathering lots of information, very emotional, so expansive that they're not grounded and not able to create to bring it int form, more and more chaos and lack of manifestation occurs. The idea behind this teaching is becoming more aware of each part of the Kabbalahic Tree of Life and keeping it in balance or harmony. It is becoming more powerful to yourself which makes you healthy and your outlook healthy, then you can effect changes around you for the better.

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I like your reaction, Debbiejo! Thank you very much! smile

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Thankies. I do believe there is a Kabbalah thread in the RF somewhere.

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I'm sorry, but Kabbalah is not religion. confused

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