Do you believe?

I believe belief is a belief and we don't actually believe anything, we just believe we believe something, we don't actually believe what we're believing, but we believe that, and can't prove or disprove we are believing what we believe to believe.

Do you believe my belief?

No, because choosing to agree or disagree with it is meaningless and it's simpler to not address it.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I believe belief is a belief and we don't actually believe anything, we just believe we believe something, we don't actually believe what we're believing, but we believe that, and can't prove or disprove we are believing what we believe to believe.

Do you believe my belief?

Originally posted by lord xyz
I believe belief is a belief and we don't actually believe anything, we just believe we believe something, we don't actually believe what we're believing, but we believe that, and can't prove or disprove we are believing what we believe to believe.

Do you believe my belief?

I believe that belief is believed by the believers who believe.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
I believe that belief is believed by the believers who believe.

Originally posted by lord xyz
But you can't know that.

But I beleive.

if you believe it it will happen. just look at naruto

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No, because choosing to agree or disagree with it is meaningless and it's simpler to not address it.

"Belief" refers to a mental acceptance of the truth of some proposition, idea, statement, or fact. It does not mean, however, that the person is convinced of this truth with absolute certainty.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
But I beleive.

Originally posted by Storm
"Belief" refers to a mental acceptance of the truth of some proposition, idea, statement, or fact. It does not mean, however, that the person is convinced of this truth with absolute certainty.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Oh, okay.

I'm trying to let us think outside more. It's possible we don't actually believe what we think we believe, we just think we believe it. So, you cant be sure that you believe what you believe. You can only believe you believe what you believe.

But I believe that I believe what I believe with believed belief. Believe me.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I believe belief is a belief and we don't actually believe anything, we just believe we believe something, we don't actually believe what we're believing, but we believe that, and can't prove or disprove we are believing what we believe to believe.

Do you believe my belief?

Hmm... tough. If I believe your belief, I don't actually believe, I just believe that I believe.
I don't know what to believe but sometimes I can't believe what others believe.

I believe I believe my believed belief, believably. Believe me.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I'm trying to let us think outside more. It's possible we don't actually believe what we think we believe, we just think we believe it. So, you cant be sure that you believe what you believe. You can only believe you believe what you believe.

You will need to give some way to differentiate between what you would expect to see if someone really believed something versus what you would expect to see if someone only believed they believed something.

It looks nice as a phrase, and I would agree with its intention, but I don't think in the strictest sense you are correct. I don't feel there is really any difference of anything concrete between "belief" or "belief in belief".

Now, there are cases where people will act in ways that are totally against what they say they believe, or where they will act in a way and be unable to justify it, or where someone can believe 2 mutually exclusive things, but I think that assumes that "belief" somehow has to be reflective of objective reality if you take those as proof for what you are saying.

I'd almost say it is necessary for someone to believe they believe in something before it could even be categorized as a "belief".

Originally posted by inimalist
You will need to give some way to differentiate between what you would expect to see if someone really believed something versus what you would expect to see if someone only believed they believed something.

It looks nice as a phrase, and I would agree with its intention, but I don't think in the strictest sense you are correct. I don't feel there is really any difference of anything concrete between "belief" or "belief in belief".

Now, there are cases where people will act in ways that are totally against what they say they believe, or where they will act in a way and be unable to justify it, or where someone can believe 2 mutually exclusive things, but I think that assumes that "belief" somehow has to be reflective of objective reality if you take those as proof for what you are saying.

I'd almost say it is necessary for someone to believe they believe in something before it could even be categorized as a "belief".

The difference would be, those who believe they believe would have to disbelieve by means of a completely different method.

But yeah, if you believe you believe, it's no different than actually believing, as actually believing and beliving to believe has the same self impact.

It does however, make people more skeptic when thinking about whether they believe what they think they believe, or actually believe it.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
But I believe that I believe what I believe with believed belief. Believe me.

are you questioning the existence of belief itself?

Originally posted by ~Forever*Alone~
are you questioning the existence of belief itself?

well then, nothing can be real can it?

Originally posted by ~Forever*Alone~
well then, nothing can be real can it?

But we can beleive 😛