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WrathfulDwarf
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Shocked Is the Mind just plain OVERRATED?

Mind over body...

Mind can conquer new horizons....

Mind can overcome anything....

Blah..blah..blah...

You die, the mind dies.....so much for the powers of the mind.



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-Paul Atreides

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Is the Mind just plain OVERRATED?

What else (do we know of) can build machines to calculate precise mathematical trajectories for sending other machines across billions of miles to take pictures of multiple celestial bodies over many years' time?

What else can assemble (as far as we know) a reasonable scenario regarding the birth of the Universe?

IMO, these, and other accomplishments, are pretty darn-tootin' amazing.

That mind dies? Eh. No one's perfect.


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The mind is more than just a brain, an organ, or chemistry. It transcends the body, imo. I have a different view of what the mind is.


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IMO;
The mind controls more than just your thoughts, your motions, etc. It can control the world around you.
Example:
You're really thirsty, but your supervisor won't let you leave the cubicle for whatever reason. You think you have a bottle of water in a drawer in your desk, and when you open it, a bottle of water there is.

Though it obviously seems like simple coincedince, this is exactly what your mind is capable of: Believing something will happen, and it does.

Using the same example, and to show-imo-how complex the mind is, say you were there a week before, two dollars in hand infront of a vending machine. You think about it, and you purchase two waters instead of just one, just in case you want it tomorrow.
Could this be your mind seeing an event sub-conciously into the future, preparing you for what might happen?

All of this IMO, of course.


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And, we supposedly ONLY use a small part of it.


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Re: Is the Mind just plain OVERRATED?

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Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Mind over body...

Mind can conquer new horizons....

Mind can overcome anything....

Blah..blah..blah...

You die, the mind dies.....so much for the powers of the mind.



wink
Actually it's usually just under used.

For every person who thinks they can move things with their mind, there are dozens who don't think they can pass a basic high school chemistry class or something stupid like that.


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the Mind is only thought and so, where does thought come from?


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Re: Is the Mind just plain OVERRATED?

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You die, the mind dies.....so much for the powers of the mind.



wink


Can you prove that?


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Re: Is the Mind just plain OVERRATED?

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Mind over body...

Mind can conquer new horizons....

Mind can overcome anything....

Blah..blah..blah...

You die, the mind dies.....so much for the powers of the mind.



wink


Possibly but eventually when we can download our brains into computers that wont be the case.

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depends on the individual an/or scenario. sumtimes the mind can do unbeleiveable miracles, sumtimes it cant do anything.


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Re: Re: Is the Mind just plain OVERRATED?

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Can you prove that?


does someone really have to post a picture of a decomposing brain?


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You're really thirsty, but your supervisor won't let you leave the cubicle for whatever reason. You think you have a bottle of water in a drawer in your desk, and when you open it, a bottle of water there is.


Along similar lines: the mind can bypass space and time. Eg...

- You're at work and someone asks you what's the color of your mother's eyes. Dear ol' mom is no where near you, so acquiring sensory input--looking--is not an option. But you can still give a reliable and valid answer by transcending distance and any intervening barriers via the awesome, underrated power of Memory. (Of course, having Memory means peek-a-boo is no longer amusing, but sacrifices must be made.)

- You're reading Socrates. Now you're not only privy to the Mind of another person, but someone who's been dead for thousands of years.


Darn tootin' amazing.


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Well, one mind can dictate the thoughts of others....


....see Leaders (mind you I'm using a negative subject) *wink-wink*

So is there sucha thing as a strong mind vs. weak mind?


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-Paul Atreides

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Well, one mind can dictate the thoughts of others....

....see Leaders (mind you I'm using a negative subject) *wink-wink*

So is there sucha thing as a strong mind vs. weak mind?


H'm. Might this question be better worded if we substitute strong/weak will for strong/weak mind? In this context, I see Mind as an information storage/processing system, whereas Will would be the drive-to-action (as in, one dominating another).

In any event, I would answer, yes, though it should be footnoted that the "weaker" individual is still choosing to submit (even if they choose not to see it that way).


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"what is mind, doesn't matter; what is matter, never mind"

so, explain it for me, does my brain control my mind or my mind control my brain, thx guys!


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Originally posted by inimalist
"what is mind, doesn't matter; what is matter, never mind"

so, explain it for me, does my brain control my mind or my mind control my brain, thx guys!


How about external things around you control both your mind and brain....hmm...


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-Paul Atreides

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How about external things around you control both your mind and brain....hmm...


Behaviorist! Tie him to the steak!

actually, I agree with you, and I apologize for spamming your thread


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Mind is both mental and matter. One physical one mental...Mental is beyond physical on a pragmatic level. Mind is beyond body.


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Originally posted by inimalist
Behaviorist! Tie him to the steak!



lulz!


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"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when my fear is gone I will turn and face fears path, and only I will remain."
-Paul Atreides

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Re: Is the Mind just plain OVERRATED?

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What else (do we know of) can build machines to calculate precise mathematical trajectories for sending other machines across billions of miles to take pictures of multiple celestial bodies over many years' time?

What else can assemble (as far as we know) a reasonable scenario regarding the birth of the Universe?

IMO, these, and other accomplishments, are pretty darn-tootin' amazing.

That mind dies? Eh. No one's perfect.


smokin'


Is "darn-tootin'" a scientific word? confused


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