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"Is death so bad ".One thing we need to understand, that every living creature in this world has to face death one or the other day. For the person who has done good deeds through out his life and by humbly taken shelter of the feet of the god, will get easy death or leave his body with and divine people will come to receive that soul take them to heaven but for the violent people death will be very harsh and threatening one and even after death, soul will be trouble by evils.
There are some Indian spiritual scriptures that explains all these in details.
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However, there is no evidence for the soul. That makes your point moot. Also, good and evil are relative. What maybe good to you could be evil to someone else.
Now, I can only regurgitate arguments that I've read or heard, but Depak Chopra had a fairly convincing argument based on Near Death Experiences, out of body experiences and memories in children that suggest knowledge from a past life. Granted, I haven't thought about evidence for the soul very much, but is it impossible? Dawkins wants me to say 'no', but we have to take all the evidence into account...
I'm rambling. What would count as evidence of a 'soul'?
as for the soul, you would need to operationalize it, meaning it would need to have reliable affects upon some part of reality which could be predicted and measured. Given that "soul" is thrown around so frivolously, it is unlikely.
Lack of precision in language shouldn't infringe upon scientific pursuits.
Well, pop-spiritualism is better than pop-music, right? And, I mean, I can't not read a gift... I got a book: The Burden of Proof, Chopra, and a box of Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. My brother wants me to not not believe in god (any god) so he gave me a spiritualism book. (Laced with candy)
Presumably inimalist thought that I was part of the fad...
I'm not on the bandwagon yet. I'll read all of his other works (as per my standard practice with a new author) and then make my judgment. I'm not compulsive at all.
But by the very nature of scientific research means that imprecise language is detrimental to the results. You can disprove one version of the soul but no one who believes in a different type of soul will care or will just argue that the wrong definition was used.
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Right. But it shouldn't be that way. This is why we need a unified language of everything (not mathematics) before we can get to a unified theory of everything.
I hear a lot of poeple say this, however I personally believe, that for the most part good and evil are seen similarly accross most religions. eg. Murder = evil. Compassion towards your fellow human being = good. I don't know of two differnt religions that have such a large contrast of beliefs when it comes to good and evil to the point where they are opposite, like you have pointed out. Apart from satanism etc of course.
Not everyone has a religion. Not everyone with a religion uses it to define their morals.
Many atheists are moral relativists. All objectivists are. Perspectivists (like Nietzsche) are moral relativists be definition, I believe. Most sane people can think of situations where killing someone is at least justified if not highly moral.
As far as I know Satanists actually embrace hedonism not "being evil". In fact something like murder would no be Satanistic because a) people typically don't enjoy murder and b) if you're caught it makes life difficult.
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When spiders can't see sky due to it's blindness it doesn't mean that there is no sky. Similarly if we can't see soul through our necked eyes it doesn't means that there is no soul. So many people had realised it. Evil are the demons and goods are the angels . A demon is bad for every one and Angles are good to everyone.
A "unified language of everything" would mean that we would all have to have a unified experience of everything, which clearly we do not. This is why operational definitions are important, so that we're all on the same page (as best as we can be) when discussing a phenomenon, especially a questionable one.
Actually, some spiders have excellent color vision and depth perception.
In any event, this doesn't prove the existence of a "soul." At best, it may give some food for thought.
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Are you sure that Murder = evil? If someone were to have murdered Hitler during WWII, would that have been evil? The same is true about compassion towards your fellow human beings. Sometimes all that compassion does is enable people to do evil.
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