Count Nefaria is incredibly strong. But Superman would be able to distract Nefaria long enough for Thor to open up a portal. Then Thor and Superman could devote all of their efforts to chucking him into the portal.
Isn't Count Nefaria made of ionic energy? Why can't Thor just absorb it with his hammer?
i think he's like Wonderman in that he isn't made of it but permeated with it..... either way Thor never did that in the comic possibly because it wouldn't work
Unless the writer was stupid enough to forget that little detail. It doesn't make sense though. Thor's hammer should be able to absorb the ionic energy that Count Nefaria emits since it can absorb pretty much anything.
did you read the Thunderbolts/Avengers crossover when they fought Nefaria? he is no going to be mopped up by these two...... they might win but it will take a hell of a lot of effort
i personally think Nefaria will smack both of them down
During AVENGERS VS JLA it's showed Supes going fist to fist with Nefaria.Nefaria is around Class 3000 Of Strenght, he can lift at max 3000 Tons, he's hella durable, high invulnerability, flight speed in the range of escape velocity, can project ionic energy, and can control every being with sufficient ionic energy in his body.Now when he fought against the T-Bolts and the AVG he was absorbing the power of Atlas and WM, two huge ionic energy batteries.This make him stronger than ever.Without them, he was beated down by Captain America in the Savage Land, without much troubles.Against T-Bolts and AVG, he finally die when he lose control of ionic energy getting enraged cause Atlas and WM absorb all the energy of a ionic bomb, saving the world, without the control over his energy, Nefaria explodes.
Considering Superman and Thor are very strong, and Supes Heat Vision at max intesity plus GodForce Blast are something outstanding to hit Nefaria with, i see him losing.
Class 100 means you can lift over 100 Tons.Nefaria's limit is 3000 Tons, that's why I wrote Class 3000.
ROTFL.Nefaria isn't worth of lifting Mjolnir.And anyway when he fought with Thor, the Thunder God didn't go all out on him, the GodForce Blast and the energy absorption powers or Mjolnir can seriously weak Nefaria makin him an easy enemy to beat down.Plus Nefaria without Atlas and WM at his side is seriously less powerful than his major days.
And just to talk about strenght, Thor lift the Jormungand Serpent, and the entire Control Tower of an Airport, just to put some his feats here.
And Superman?We all know that Post Crisis is still hella strong.
first off, Nefaria wasn't drawing power from Atlas and Wonderman in that fight, he was just controlling them and the only reason he lost control of his energies was due to one specific weapon designed entirely for the purpose of taking down Nefaria and it still didn't kill him, only cause his body to lose energy at an increased rate
as for Nefaria throwing away Thor's hammer....... i doubt it could happen but Gladiator managed to knock it out of his grip and miles away so Nefaria could do the same
Neferia has taken some of Thor's best hits without even being caused to move, he is way stronger and more resilient than either Thor or Superman
Gladiator knocking Thor's hammer away was inconsistent writing...in the past it was shown whenever Thor and mjolnir were seperated, Mjolnir would come back via teleportation practically instantly...
yeah but that fight was when he had that whole human side emerges when separated from the hammer for 1 minute thing going........ so i think it works differently under those conditions......... and doesn't it only teleport back when it's really really far away...... or in another dimension?
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