Fisk is very strong and deceptively fast. Fast enough to stomp a room full of martial artists and go toe to toes with Daredevil. He is also a trained martial artist, mostly Sumo I think. Unfurtunatly his fighting skills nor strength measure up to Banes. Though weather Bane is on venom at the time of the fight makes a difference.
Kingpin parried Spider-Man's blows during their fights, isn't that fast?
Fisk can lift 650 Lbs, while Bane must use the venom serum to be superhuman.Bane broke Batman's spine after Bat was really tired and injured from fights with other of his archvillains.
Kingpin goes fist to fist with Spider-Man, DD isn't a match compared to staying against Spidey.Big K throwed Spidey through the walls of his mansion, and they were walls composed from a layer of of concrete and bricks.He once putted Spidey into a submission position and they shatter themselves through 2walls of the mansion and Kingpin was still fighting.
The man is now quite old, but in his good days he was the only not-enhanced human enemy of Spidey able to give him a fight.
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KP also whooped the red skull who has beaten cap on occasion. great fight, but i like the KP's will to win (amply demonstrated by his origins). he is one very nasty fat man!
strength wise, i say KP's got an edge over Bane without Venom....just because he held his own against Spidey's 10 ton class range. With Venom, I think Bane could potentially be stronger, but only because he's got more agility and martial arts talent IMO. Deviousness--KP takes it, I mean Bane is really smart and he planned Bat's demise, but KP's a veteran when it comes to controlling the rackets.
However, it makes me wonder if Spidey was just underestimating KP a lot because he's only human and that's why he gets bear-hugged. In a straight up fight (no weapons), I think Bane on venom would ultimately kick KP's ass. Just think if BAts went against KP, what would happen...and I put Bane on Bat's level.
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You gotta consider Spidey is not the Punisher, he holds back or he would murder Kingpin with one punch, he's always using about 1/3 of his real strenght against Kingpin but anyway withstanding with that makes Kingpin a fella to reckon with.Plus also Kingpin bear hugged Spidey cause he's an expert sumo user, and Spidey don't fight anyone with that fighting style, plus KP muscles plus the fat side of his body grants him to make the impact of Spidey's fists slightly less powerful so he can make Spidey getting tired for a few and use the lack of attention to hit him, yes cause Spidey don't pay attention to the Spider Sense, he goes in slugfest mode with the big K
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Fisk is only 4% body fat. I think 650 bench is way under for him. He might even be class 1. And to say Fisk is slow is silly, this is a guy who out finesses elite ninja. I say on Venom, Bane takes it, without it it's Fisk all the way.
According to the Marvel Encyclopedia Fisk's strength is peak human. Which they say means he can lift twice his own body weight. Which at some 450lbs is 900lbs. The next step up in strength in the encyclopedia is 800lbs to 10 tons I think, so Fisk falls into the next catagory. If only because of his weight.
Fisk stands a good chance, but if Bane gets juiced out of his head like he does on occassion, then Fisk might loose.
Two superjuiced punches to the head and its a wrap for Fisk.
bane doesn't even need his venom.....are you guys not aware he's a match for batman without it?
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