Onslaught (full power): Held his own against the combined might of the Avengers, FF, X-Men, and some others all at the same time.
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Apocalypse (90's Cartoon Version): Held his own against Archangel, Cable and his team, Mystique, Magneto, Bishop, and the X-Men all at the same.
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Tyrant (SS Issue #82 Version): Held his own against SS, Beta Ray Bill, Gladiator, Terrax, Morg, and The Jack of Hearts all at the same time.
(In that same issue he also got in the face of Galactus and lived to talk about it which is a feat in itself.)
actually i think that apocalypse would win... if you are using his 90s cartoon version. this wasnt your average ordinary apocalypse. he was literally wiping out entire parts of reality, and refitting it to his image. it took the combined might of all the phsychics that he collected (for his scheme) at the center of time and space to stop him. he essentially would have taken the head seat at the table to become... the universe. sorry but that version of apoc was basically what thanos is in comics...
The phsychics that he collected at the center of time and space to stop him and even they wouldn't be enough if Lazarus chamber wouldn't gone. Pretty much than Thanos, or in power, more powerful than Thanos. Anyway I think Apocalypse (90 cartoon vesrion) and Onslaught would tear Tyrant apart.
we arent talking about the comic book version of apocalypse here...
it took the x-men, magneto, cable and his team, just to fight apocalypse. he was holding his own. he was also re-shaping reality to his will. his own image. which nobody except the collection of phsychics could stop him. that was because "time and thought are one". and only there were they more powerful than him.
if you were talking apoc in comics... i'd be inclined to agree. but apoc in the x-men cartoons was what thanos and the infinity gauntlet were in comics... its that simple. onslaught or tyrant arent on that level of power.
Cartoon version Apocalypse is more powerful than Thanos. Those most powerful psychic in the universe were only able to stop him in Axis of time, like the one said time and thought are one (and ebacuse Lazarus chamebr was gone). Apocalypse in Axis of time, Apocalypse almost became even more than with IG could, he would become universe, existence (after that, you do realize that Eternity and such beings would be joke to Apocalypse), but he didn't succeded like no one did with IG.
You will be talking abot fanboy, Molecule Man.
Last edited by Xplosive on May 3rd, 2005 at 12:03 PM
Comic Apocalypse isn't joke, but ceratilny isn't that powerful (and sometimes is shown as joke, weak and...), but at least I am not defending obsesivly, I say comic Apocaylpse would lose and is even shown as joke someitmes..., but you defend MM on every level.