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Vargas vs. Iron Fist

I'm not sure about this one, but i'd LOVE to see a fight between the two. Iron Fist is ma' main man, but even so, remember that Vargas beat Beast to a bloody pulp, gutted psylocke with his sword, captured Gambit (even beat him at a card game O_o), defeated Shaitan the chief lieutenant of the Khan invasion and then proceeded to impale rogue and gambit on his sword.

He's considered "stronger and faster than most mutants, and posessing a great intellect".

So....what do you say?
Can Iron Fist shatter his sword and then proceed to breaking Vargas into pieces? or does he get gutted?

ps: Vargas also has excellent reflexes.

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Iron Fist wins, there are not many people, in fact, the only ones that can survive a fully powered Chi-Punch from iron Fist are the super heavyweights like Thing, Hulk, Juggy, etc so one fully charged punch from iron fist and Vargas is dead.


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Originally posted by armandovalles
Iron Fist wins, there are not many people, in fact, the only ones that can survive a fully powered Chi-Punch from iron Fist are the super heavyweights like Thing, Hulk, Juggy, etc so one fully charged punch from iron fist and Vargas is dead.


I have no doubt about the fact that one single punch would knock him out. Now, i didn't say kill him, because he put up quite a fight against rogue, not to mention beast which he beat to a bloody pulp. However, seeing as how we decided in another thread that Iron Fist's chi can dent even colossus's organic steel skin, i doubt of the ones you listed Thing wouldn't get knocked out.

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Here's a list of people that in my opinion would not get knocked out by his fully charged punch:
Savage Hulk
Professor Hulk
Abomination
Juggernaut
Colossus
Thing
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Morg
Terrax
Gladiator
Silver Surfer
Rhino
Current She-Hulk
Drax the Destroyer
Thanos
Galactus
Celestials
High Fathers
Hercules
Eternity, LT, etc.

Most of those guys would be hurt a little, but not knocked out.


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Originally posted by armandovalles
Here's a list of people that in my opinion would not get knocked out by his fully charged punch:
Savage Hulk
Professor Hulk
Abomination
Juggernaut
Colossus
Thing
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Morg
Terrax
Gladiator
Silver Surfer
Rhino
Current She-Hulk
Drax the Destroyer
Thanos
Galactus
Celestials
High Fathers
Hercules
Eternity, LT, etc.

Most of those guys would be hurt a little, but not knocked out.


Armando, this isn't an "Iron Fist" vs. the world thread so please please edit your post.

also, to get back on topic, i'm not saying a punch wouldn't knock vargas out (a kick would also work since i believe Iron Fist can focus his chi in his feet as well), btu the question is: "Can Iron Fist land a punch on Vargas before Vargas manages to impale him?"

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yea, Iron Fist can easily land a punch, the guys a trained ninja for god's sake!


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yea, Iron Fist can easily land a punch, the guys a trained ninja for god's sake!


laughing Yes, so was psylocke, a trained Ninja (extremely well trained ninja) AND a telepath as well. And she got gutted easily by Vargas.

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I believe Vargas would take this


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When Psylocke directs her telekenisis into an attack at Vargas, it takes the form of a red laser-like beam that Vargas almost dodges, and still manages to turn into only a glancing hit.

To repeat: Vargas evades Psylocke's brain waves.

If he can dodge brain waves, he can dodge Rand's punch. Iron Fist gets gutted before he has the chance to make a second punch.


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Who is Vargas and what can He do?

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Originally posted by Mider
Who is Vargas and what can He do?


Vargas is a mutant that claims to be in a new race of mutants, superior to regular ones. He's superstrong and fast, wicked with a sword and has a great deal of brain power to boot. Like i said in the first post, he beat beast to a bloody pulp, and right after, gutted psylocke (thank you vargas big grin ). Later on, he beat gambit at a card game O_o, then he impaled both gambit and rogue (with her superstrength and all) on his sword.

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its a hard one...but i think its generally accepted that Iron-Fist's fighting skills r of a differnt level than X-Men ninjas like Psylocke or Wolverine. It would either be a good fight, or IF would use him...I know i have the issue but i havent read it in a long time...how did the x-men beat Vargas?


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its a hard one...but i think its generally accepted that Iron-Fist's fighting skills r of a differnt level than X-Men ninjas like Psylocke or Wolverine. It would either be a good fight, or IF would use him...I know i have the issue but i havent read it in a long time...how did the x-men beat Vargas?


they didn't. Or rather couldn't. In the end Rogue goes crazy and goes after Vargas and absorbs his powers. She starts fighting a weakened Vargas with his own powers and sword (which is a normal sword) and nearly kills him, but then comes out of her bloodlust and doesn;t. However, that was a bit of a stretch since he had already beaten her once. And i don't think it'd be that easy on IF either. Not saying he wouldn't win, but it would be a really cool fight to watch IMO.

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