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Adam Warlock
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Bruce Wayne No Weapons VS. Matt Murdock No Weapons... Hand to Hand!!!

Who takes it?

Debate.


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Great fight. Talentwise, I give a slight edge to Matt. Ditto skillwise. But Batman is as smart as they come. He'd realize pretty fast that Matt is blind and use that to his advantage with some wicked misdirection and sound tricks, like leading him to a church and ringing the bells or something (if that counts).


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This is a good fight. Daredevil might lack the 127 different martial arts styles Batman knows, but he has a unique fighting style. An acrobatic fighting style, mixed with old pugilistic boxing techniques, plus he hits harder than most heavyweight prize fighters. This is a good fight.


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I find that 127 arts style learned by Batman overarrated. he didnt had the time in the world to learn all that. Matt has his powers in this fight right? Add that to skill and he wins.

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Batman is stronger.
They're roughly equal in most respects.
I'd give it to the Bat.

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Batman, its close but Batman


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Batman has a greater fighting and tactical prowress, Murdock, is a better acrobat, with that perception, since it is hand to hand, with Murdocks senses, I'd say tie at the moment.


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Matt is quicker and more agile then Bruce. Although Bruce might be stronger, there both at peak human performance. Hm very good fight, but I have to go with Murdock on this.


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Originally posted by olympian
I find that 127 arts style learned by Batman overarrated. he didnt had the time in the world to learn all that. Matt has his powers in this fight right? Add that to skill and he wins.


Yes they are very overrated, and add to the "wow" factor of him, you can't really cycle through moves like that, and only have need for the: open appendage, closed, grab, and lock, techniques, all with counter another.

Once you have those the rest is just about focus, application , and concetration, all of which bamtan has, the other skills are just for different insight, and extension of knowledge.

But I'm going with Murdock on this one.


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Bats does a pretty good job keeping up with Bat-girl thats basicaly DD but her abilities have better applications for pure combat.Id give Bats a slight edge but DD would make one heck of a fight out of it


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good point, but murdock is a different opponent in his own right, speed is better than pure strenght in a fight, speed feeds power, and power>strength.

Its more beneficial to generate 60% of your power for longer periods of time and a much faster start up, than to generate,90% and burn out.


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Unless like Tyson in his prime that 90% gets the job done very quickly, styles make fights, at least as much as strategy.

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Yep, but he could keep that 90% long enough, and if not, who said it was 90%, the better fighters are the more powerful ones easily.


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Unless like Tyson in his prime that 90% gets the job done very quickly, styles make fights, at least as much as strategy.

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I started watching some old tyson fights on a classic sports channel a little while before i lost Cable.Alot of his fights werent being complimented for his power but for his great combinations combined with KO ability.Only once he got big headed did he become a mindless headhunter rather than a boxer and it was downhill from there


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You have to include the fact that both of these people are well conditioned and not going to tire sooner. This is a hard fought battle both are fairly equal. I give to Batman though because the winner of this fight isn't going to be who's stronger or faster but who is the more clever and better fighter overall. I give the nod to Batman here. He always seems to be in control and focused. Plus I think he will outthink DD which as a stated earlier is the key to winning this fight.


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Agreed its an implement of all technique,speed, and power, but neither rely on "strenth", thats for thing and hulk.


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I agree that its about technique rather then strength but they are both highly skilled. They are both clever in there own right. So when it comes down to it, it is about strength and speed, rather then mind.

I still go with Murdock on this one.


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Dam this is kinda close to call.

I wanna start by saying, why do people assume Bruce is stronger than Matt? Matt is capable of lifting(press) over 700 lbs.

Anyhow, like everyone says, strength wont be a factor. Bruce does have a very wide knowledge of the martial arts. Matt also is well trained in then MA. I know he was taught since the early teens(12-14). Bruce has a slight advantage in skills thatn Matt.

They both analyze their opponents to look for openings to attack as well as weak spots. I think Matt has a slight advantage because of his hearing which allows his to detect the slightest movement in Bruce. Also the heartbeat. Even if Wayne somehow figures Matt is blind, it wouldnt really help much imo.

Matt also has the advantage in agility. I would say reflexes also, because he knows exactly when Bruce is going to throw a punch due to his senses.

In the end, im going to have to give the fight to Matt. He has the agility, reflexes and a unorthodox fighting style.

Matt 7/10/ imo.


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Great fight. Talentwise, I give a slight edge to Matt. Ditto skillwise. But Batman is as smart as they come. He'd realize pretty fast that Matt is blind and use that to his advantage with some wicked misdirection and sound tricks, like leading him to a church and ringing the bells or something (if that counts).
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hmm.... cool fight. id have to say id give the edge to matt because of his heightened senses and keener reflexes. but bruce could always outsmart him in the end... but that would be pretty difficult because dd isn't some mindless street fighter.


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