Beyonder: "I'm bored now, so I'll destroy this universe."
L. Tribunal: "You are not allowed."
Beyonder: "What? I can do what I want. Who're you?"
L. Tribunal: "Too general a question. You must lay out your case to me."
Beyonder: "Do you know who I am?"
L. Tribunal: "Identity is relative and fleeting. You are your actions - define your reasoning before there is to be conflict."
Beyonder: "They have people like you on Earth; called lawyers. Were you a lawyer?"
L. Tribunal: "Define law."
Beyonder: "Uggghh...."
And on it would go...
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Pre retcon Beyonder could in his day but thats irrelevant all that matters is current continuity and all that Beyonder amounts to is an incomplete cosmic cube. LT wins.
Original Beyonder : LT wins, but he would feel it.
Low budget version of Beyonder : LT very very easily.
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People seem to forget that when the LT appears, it's only PART of him. It's an M body, just like the rest of the abstracts. He's in multiple dimensions as well as this one doing his thing. If one were to pit the Beyonder against the totality of the LT...well it'd be like using a bomb to kill a rat or something...
Im not sure youre quite right. There is one LT in the multiverse and he manifests himself into a universe when his physical presence is required. However unless its been stated somewhere that he doesnt have full access to his power then its irrelevant that it was an M body. Beyonder was stated to be at the time the most powerful person in the multiverse therefore LT in his totality was included in that.
no thotu was not god's power, anyway any TRUE beyonder is beyond the multiverse, the preretcon beyonder could easily destroy the multiverse,{a proven fact by just how scared the celestials and reed richards got when they found out it was true}, the beyonders are second only to TOAA, and perhaps the infinite being that created the multiverse. he would own tribunal, but the cosmic cube version of the beyonder{who isnt a true beyonder anyway would die ofcourse.
We dont know if its gods power or not conclusively as we have only Thanos' speculation to go on however the fact that he could take out LT who had previously only been shown to susceptible to Phoenix (another force linked to god) then it seems very likely that it was.
The pre retcon Beyonder while not part of the normal multiverse was a part of Marvel creation and still had to answer to Marvels supreme being. Therefore if HOTU was truly gods power as it seems then yes it would have been able to take him out.
The infinity Being as was made quite clear in the infinity series and its follow up had his form shattered into th Infinity Gems. One need only visit this link to see so:
no gs, if u stop thinkin about ur version of the pheonix force for one second ud know that i wasnt talkin about the infinite gem being, but the infinite being{dont really remember which comic it was, i think it was one of the old STRANGE TALES} which was one of the two creations of TOAA, one was the beyonder race living in the beyond realm and the other one was the infinite being, the infinite being died and released its energies to create the current marvel multiverse, THOTU was definately below toaa as it did not affect the beyonders or adam warlock when he was outside the multiverse. and anywauy, the true beyonders are only second to toaa, i dont see any 1 else beeing even close to there position{n dont say pheonix is}
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