The Flash is the only one who' gonna give him trouble. The others are cannon fodder. With the Flash, the team is most likely to win given these constraints.
Re: Superman Vs Venom,Carnage,Wolverine, The flash,the punisher, and sabertooth, Stor
What's next? That Superman doesn't have super-strength, and is no longer operating under a yellow sun? Or that he has normal human strength and is blind, wears a red suit with a black double-D imprint on his chest, loves some assassin called Elektra, has a legal degree and answers to the name Matt Murdock? The more stuff you take out the less Superman becomes Superman.
Or maybe I should start a thread with the Hulk .....but in this case the Hulk has no super-strength, and when he gets angry all he ends up with is a throbbing migraine.
Or saying Batman .....but he is not master of the martial arts, is a novice in terms of tactical thinking and stratagems, and has no toys and gizmos. Is that Batman anymore, or simply Bruce Wayne had nothing happened to his folks when he was a kid?
Anyways ....as the 2nd poster said, Superman would face the greatest threat from the Flash. The others would be slight nuicances at best. Even with the various handicaps instilled in this thread, Superman is still more potent than all these guys. The only REAL AND PLAUSIBLE scenario that he could lose would be if the Flash got a hold of Wolverine, and accelerated at amazing velocity towards Supes with Wolvie's claws extended. Then we would see if the combined speed (let's say a fraction of light speed) coupled with adamantium claws could slay Kal-El.
And even then I'd still place my money on Supes saying WTF just tickled me, Wolvie needing handcasts, and the Flash going for muscle-contorl therapy.
As for the 2 symbiotes, the Punisher, and Sabretooth ....well ...they just sit pretty and admire Storm's curves.
if super man did not have super speed and all his powers this would be a joke. spiderman or wolverine alone would beat him he just be a weak version of hulk who cant heal.
Storm doesn't have to HURT Superman; she just has to disrupt his flight ... and can.
Punisher can't HURT Superman either (not without one-sided prep and access to special equipment ... same as Batman), but he might briefly distract him. Or worse, a flash grenade might leave him disoriented for a few moments.
By now, with Superman grounded and disoriented, it's ridiculously easy for Flash to IMP him into low orbit. Night night.
Everyone else can go pick up some post-fight Arby's.
But this thread is really, REALLY unfair to Superman.
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I spose with no super-speed Supes wouldn't really be able to tackle Flash.
But remember - all it'd take is one single punch and Flash is dead. One single flukey punch.
And an IMP wouldn't necessarily ring Kal out. If he holds himself in place with his flight power he'd be pretty much unmovable - I should imagine all the energy from the impact would simply dissapate out of his body and into the air about him in a huge explosion.
I don't think there's much that Storm could do to ground him. What speeds of wind can she generate? A few hundred mph? A coupla thousand? I think his flight is more than sufficient to keep him steady in that. And his strength would be sufficient too to throw his adamantium weapons through the storm in a straight line and hit people dead on.
Yes - this thread is unfair to Supes - but it's not absolutely totally 100% impossible. He's been in worse situations before and come out on top.
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u do realize it superman with only durability and strength. that's just a weak version of hulk with no healing factor wolverine or spiderman ALONE yes I said it and it true. is spiderman has no super speed or any other powers but strength and durability is no that big of a threat.
Flash is more than a threat. The flukiest punch imagineable isn't going to TOUCH a man to whom the puncher's fist is moving so slowly as to appear frozen in midair. Flash could even stop to write "loser" on Superman's fist BEFORE knocking him silly.
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wolverine coyuld not do a thing, so he should just watch. punisher could not do a thing, he should watch also. same goes for sabretooth.
perhaps if flash went really fast, he could give superman a nasty punch. at the same time, storm could use all her power for one explosive lighting bolt at superman and then venom and carnage smother and wrap around his face (i really doubt any of this will happen).
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the method of flash running fast with wolverines claws in front would not work either. i think it would =cut superman's skin, but wolverine would die. he's tough, but that speed is too much for wolverine.
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