Re: who in the marvel univerise can deafeat the spectre powered by the presence?
LT or White Crown Phoenix could stop him. They after all work for Marvels supreme being and its the assumption that Marvel and DC's gods are equal. In fact in a crossover they would more than likely be the same being.
franklin richards, living tribunal, true beyonders, thanos w THOTU, the infinite gauntlett wielder{well MAYBE}, dr strange{before any1 ridicules this, consider that he actually RESISTED the power of the tribunal}
The true beyonders are no more powerful than eternity as i have told you many a time people got ideas between them and the fake beyonder mixed up. They are not as powerful as you wrongly think Leon. And before you say it as the fake beyonders feats were retconned all he did is not an indicator of what the true beyonders are capable of.
Franklin Richards full potential is Celestial level. He would get squished.
When you have evidence (scans, quotes from comics etc) that support your claim that Franklin can make anything more than pocket universes then you'll be taken more seriously.
The infinity gauntlet gives ultimate power within a reality. Universal power. Such power is not enough for a multiversal being like Spectre.
Resisting the effects of a power is completely different to going against a power head on and triumphing. Strange did NOT do that therefore he is a ridiculous choice for this thread.
Re: Re: who in the marvel univerise can deafeat the spectre powered by the presence?
Then it just becomes a case of TOAA versus the Presence as Marvels supreme being is going to send his agents to deal with Spectre. (LT and White Crown Phoenix) which would end up as a stalemate.
If you take it from the point of view that in a crossover Presence and TOAA are one and the same being (as has been suggested in the past) then if Spectre was sent to destroy Marvel then noone could stop him.
Specter is a pretty big chump right now he got his powers stolen by Black Alice for goodness sakes! He couldn't even flat out beat the Phantom Stranger or Fate.
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First off, you cant call him a chump for that. Those are her powers. Spectre isnt even being backed by the Pressence right now. And as you see, they couldnt do anything to hurt him either. Plus its only momentarily. The powers do return.
If Spectre was backed by Pressence, Fate Phantom Stranger would be dead indeed. Theres no doubt about that.
If TOAA and Pres are considered seperate in this thread and Spectre was sent to destroy Marvel then he would be stalemated by Phoenix and LT. If they are considered different aspects of one supreme being (as suggested in the past) then noone could stop Spectre.
Re: Re: Re: who in the marvel univerise can deafeat the spectre powered by the presence?
Based, on the Kalam Arguement/ William Craig , and Thomas Aquinas Cosmological Arguements, God must exist outside our concept of Reality, and must exist on its/his own (E.G. 'The Un Moved Mover') Therefore TOAA and the Prsesnce are the same thing.
Spectre Lose to Eternity he is to powerful and in here underestimated And would defiantly lose to LT you guys really underestimate these two beings.Eternity and Infinity would total Spectre. He is how I see it ok With possession of all six Infinity Gems, the bearer would have complete omnipotence over the Universe, though not necessarily the omniscience required to effectively wield that power. Later comics added the existence of a seventh gem called the Ego Gem. Know if LT is more powerful then the Infinty Gauntlet then Spectre is wrecked
And what about Thanos with the Heart of the Universe. Also Eternity Infinity,Empathy, Eulogy, Expediency, Entropy, Epiphany,Enmity,Era,Epoch and the Celestials vs Spectre please he dies fast...
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