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Magneto vs. Doomsday

Who would win between Magneto (Before he lost his powers) and Gog Wars Doomsday?

I searched to see if the fight had been done before, but I couldn't find it.

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Magneto wins via mind control. If Manchester Black can do it, so can Magneto. Magneto can also win by dumping Doomsday into a blackhole in the middle of nowhere, or sending him into orbit. It would pretty much have to be some form of BFR.


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What in the hell is this I don't really think Magneot can do a damn thing ya know I mean what is this? Mind Control when physcic feed back would knock his ass out like nothing or Doomsday can just rip him apart.


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if superman can servive a black hole so could doomsday and i dont understand how he can be mind controlled when wave rider had horrible feedback Doomsday is portrayed as weak on this board but the people who actually read his comics see that he is indeed a BIG TIME THREAT.

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Remember, this is Gog Wars Doomsday. This Doomsday has a mind that can be manipulated. That's why Black was successful at doing it. It's actually quite easy to do now....it's a step back for Doomsday.


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Is there a scan of Gog Wars Doomsday being mind controlled? And isn't there a way DD can adapt to it without dying. I thought this topic would get a lot of replies, but there all being consumed by Supes vs. Mag or Batman/Daredevil, etc...

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Is there any proof of Mags having this type of powerful mind control?
Manchester black is ridiculously powerful. He mind controlled hundreds or individuals simultaneously.


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Is there any proof of Mags having this type of powerful mind control?
Manchester black is ridiculously powerful. He mind controlled hundreds or individuals simultaneously.


i was wondering the same thing. seems mags shut down x's mind -- so now he's at ss level AND is a more powerful telepath than charlie? confused


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Magneto wins via mind control. If Manchester Black can do it, so can Magneto. Magneto can also win by dumping Doomsday into a blackhole in the middle of nowhere, or sending him into orbit. It would pretty much have to be some form of BFR.



Blah blah get over it dude. Maneto loses.


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Magneto wins via mind control. If Manchester Black can do it, so can Magneto. Magneto can also win by dumping Doomsday into a blackhole in the middle of nowhere, or sending him into orbit. It would pretty much have to be some form of BFR.
Manchester Black only held him for a brief moment, then Doomsday immediately became immune to it, and Doomsday killed the team that released him and Manchester ran.

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Is there any proof of Mags having this type of powerful mind control?
Manchester black is ridiculously powerful. He mind controlled hundreds or individuals simultaneously.
Yep, pretty much every DC Earth villain, in the issue when he killed himself.
Hell of a show for Superman whirlwinding through nearly every DC Earth baddie.

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what issue was that, jun?


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Which one?


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the ending arc, where he kills himself and seems to have killed lois.


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A lot of issues across various titles Leo.
Still, Mags couldnt even DREAM of becoming half as powerful as Manchester black telepathicly.


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the ending arc, where he kills himself and seems to have killed lois.
Ending Battle?
Ran through all of Superman's titles for a while back in 02.
The issues are:
Superman: 186
Adventures of Superman: 608
Man of Steel: 130
Superman in Action Comics: 795
Superman: 187
Adventures of Superman: 609
Man of Steel: 131
Superman in Action Comics: 796

Manchester was an awesome character.

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Actually, Manchester has no impressive telepathic feats, so saying that Magneto isn't even half as powerful telepathically as Manchester is totally unsupported speculation. Magneto has shut down Xavier's mind in Eve of Destruction (a feat only accomplished by Moondragon WITH THE MIND GEM, he's blocked Psylocke, Jean Grey and Xavier at the same time when he ambushed them along with the rest of the X-teams in Fatal Attractions. These are against people who are POWERFUL telepaths. Manchester has NO telepathic feats to match that.

And Manchester was successful in taking over Doomsday - Magneto will be too. And he doesn't need to just take Doomsday over. Just make him go to sleep or go away. Or go beat up Superman


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Actually, Manchester has no impressive telepathic feats, so saying that Magneto isn't even half as powerful telepathically as Manchester is totally unsupported speculation. Magneto has shut down Xavier's mind in Eve of Destruction (a feat only accomplished by Moondragon WITH THE MIND GEM, he's blocked Psylocke, Jean Grey and Xavier at the same time when he ambushed them along with the rest of the X-teams in Fatal Attractions. These are against people who are POWERFUL telepaths. Manchester has NO telepathic feats to match that.

And Manchester was successful in taking over Doomsday - Magneto will be too. And he doesn't need to just take Doomsday over. Just make him go to sleep or go away. Or go beat up Superman
He DID take over Doomsday, but only for a moment, and Doomsday became immune, then killed I'm pretty sure.. Steel and Mongul. They didn't even get out of the ROOM before Manchester lost his hold on Doomsday.

Manchester dominated an entire city of villains in Ending Battle. That's impressive. Holding Doomsday for a moment, when Waverider couldn't do it, that was impressive. Editing memories so well, a mental scan from Martian Manhunter[Capable of touching all minds on the planet at once.] is impressive. Dominating people FROM THE DEAD, and then using his TK/TP through them, that's impressive.

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Actually, Manchester has no impressive telepathic feats, so saying that Magneto isn't even half as powerful telepathically as Manchester is totally unsupported speculation. Magneto has shut down Xavier's mind in Eve of Destruction (a feat only accomplished by Moondragon WITH THE MIND GEM, he's blocked Psylocke, Jean Grey and Xavier at the same time when he ambushed them along with the rest of the X-teams in Fatal Attractions. These are against people who are POWERFUL telepaths. Manchester has NO telepathic feats to match that.

And Manchester was successful in taking over Doomsday - Magneto will be too. And he doesn't need to just take Doomsday over. Just make him go to sleep or go away. Or go beat up Superman


Manchester having no impressive feats? Ridiculous. Juntai cleared that one up already though.

Mags shutting off Xaviers mind does not make him a telepath. Energy Superman had the same exact ability and wasn't telepathic in the least.


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so what IS the extent of mag's telepathy? is it a new ability, seperate from his magnetic power? did it sort of just 'show up one day??'

god i hate all these flippin power-ups. bless you scarlet witch . . .


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